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17 October 2005, 13:02
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first 10 hr service
whats a do ?
filter and relube check bolts etc, oil levels, gear and PTT.
can not see what else could be involved or does it need to be on a machine for warrantie issues does the brain log it?
mercury 150 optimax by the way
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17 October 2005, 13:38
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Most definitely. Don't recommend Opti's self seviced at all, especially new ones.
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17 October 2005, 14:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by nugent
whats a do ?
filter and relube check bolts etc, oil levels, gear and PTT.
can not see what else could be involved or does it need to be on a machine for warrantie issues does the brain log it?
mercury 150 optimax by the way
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Have I missed something here? My Opti 200 manual makes no mention of a 10 hour service, merely that the break-in period is complete at 10 hours. It indicates that the first scheduled service is after 100 hours, or 1 year.
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17 October 2005, 15:20
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Originally Posted by JIY
Have I missed something here? My Opti 200 manual makes no mention of a 10 hour service, merely that the break-in period is complete at 10 hours. It indicates that the first scheduled service is after 100 hours, or 1 year.
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i do beleive nothing really happens on 10 hrs also just check its bolted to transom. and the like,, only curious if any thing wa sdone to the brain via DDT adaptor???
normal service naturally i will put it in.to be done aint wrecking my hard earned near miss now,,,,
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17 October 2005, 16:25
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Originally Posted by nugent
.. i do beleive nothing really happens on 10 hrs ..
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Betcha it does. Get the gear oil changed. Hold the old stuff under a lamp and watch the metal move about! It'll look like metal flake paint.
Change it again at 30hrs.
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17 October 2005, 17:57
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Opti
As previously quoted get oil changed in box, put on DDt make sure all is well, and then GET STAMP in book for your warranty
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18 October 2005, 08:31
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Theres no such thing as a 10 hour service. Just spoke to my boss (service manager Merc and Mariner) Only needs servicing at 100hrs or once a year.
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18 October 2005, 09:25
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oh dear what have i stirred up here
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18 October 2005, 09:42
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Originally Posted by jwalker
Betcha it does. Get the gear oil changed. Hold the old stuff under a lamp and watch the metal move about! It'll look like metal flake paint.
Change it again at 30hrs.
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Although I agree with the concept of changing oil more often than the manufacture recommends I am not sure that it is a good idea with a new engine for the first ‘run in’period.
Engine technology has changed over the years and a modern engine is virtually ‘run in’ when you compare it to an engine of 20 years ago. However the manufactures still uses the initial run in period to lap in some components and to condition some of the wearing surfaces.
It is hideous looking at an oil sample from a new engine but it is all part of the manufactures grand plan, let’s face it, to avoid a warranty issues the manufacture wants the engine to be as reliable as possible and if changing the oil at 10 hours would help he would insist on it.
Bear in mind that warranties are generally getting longer and so are service intervals, no manufacture in his right mind would offer this if he didn’t have increased confidence in his product.
I know someone will come up with a specific exception to this but as a general rule I believe it to be true Des
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18 October 2005, 10:13
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Hey Nuge, lift the engine cover, whisper underneath "Everything OK in there?". If you hear no reply it means that all's well. Do the cover back up give it a bit of a cuddle. Works a treat.
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18 October 2005, 10:15
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Hey Nuge, lift the engine cover, whisper underneath "Everything OK in there?". If you hear no reply it means that all's well. Do the cover back up give it a bit of a cuddle. Works a treat.
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No wrong you must be assertive with engines you should say 'Everything is ok, OK' that works Des
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18 October 2005, 11:03
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Originally Posted by Turbodiesel
Theres no such thing as a 10 hour service. Just spoke to my boss (service manager Merc and Mariner) Only needs servicing at 100hrs or once a year.
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But then again oil's cheaper than metal
Andy
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18 October 2005, 11:26
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No wrong you must be assertive with engines you should say 'Everything is ok, OK' that works Des
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Heck! I wouldn't dare, mine would sulk for days. I've got the Opti "Moody" model. Or am I getting a bit confused?
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18 October 2005, 11:39
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But then again oil's cheaper than metal
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I'd agree, had our opti checked out after 20 Hrs, they found water in the gearbox Flushed it out and refilled, Glad we had it sorted
Brian
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18 October 2005, 11:53
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having built copetition engines all my life, all beit not out boards. i would rather service it my self where i can. but was concerned at the brain not logging a DDT being attatched to it,
i would personally drop gear oil after 15 hrs or so check all bolts and mounting to transom/prop. check for loose wires due to vibrations etc lube every thing up again. then go and rape the mutha in a big swell
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18 October 2005, 17:36
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Quote:
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...Engine technology has changed over the years and a modern engine is virtually ‘run in’ when you compare it to an engine of 20 years ago.
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Well my Jeep wusnae. The manufacturer's recommendation is 1200 miles run in period followed by a gradual increase in usage for a while after.
I seem to remember 500 miles was common in the 'old days'.
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18 October 2005, 17:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jwalker
Well my Jeep wusnae. The manufacturer's recommendation is 1200 miles run in period followed by a gradual increase in usage for a while after.....
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Sorry, should have said 'European engine technology has changes…' Des
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18 October 2005, 18:15
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I think it was made in Belgium! .....over to eupa.
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19 October 2005, 08:34
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Originally Posted by jwalker
I think it was made in Belgium! .....over to eupa.
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DDD
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19 October 2005, 19:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Turbodiesel
Theres no such thing as a 10 hour service. Just spoke to my boss (service manager Merc and Mariner) Only needs servicing at 100hrs or once a year.
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News to me, so if engine is not checked until 100hrs from new how does this effect warranty??
Paul
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