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26 May 2008, 19:25
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flushing with antifreeze mixture
hi all, I have been told to flush with a mixture of antifreeze. Sounds a good idea for its anticorrosion properties but anyone else do this? I flush with portable tank so will be an easy mix.
Also, will it strip paint if spilt?
Are all brands the same? if so should I just buy the cheapest?
Appreciate any advice or feedback.
Cheers
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26 May 2008, 21:58
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Some people do that here if they are winterising - but not after every time out - and definatley not in the summer. Finest Spanish tap water should be just fine.
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26 May 2008, 23:06
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cheers, Spanish tap water is awful! I thought each flush with antifreeze was a bit ott so just pre winter is agood idea.
Thanks for prompt reply
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27 May 2008, 01:02
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Originally Posted by RibinSpain
cheers, Spanish tap water is awful! I thought each flush with antifreeze was a bit ott so just pre winter is agood idea.
Thanks for prompt reply
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NO, No, No.
Unless you are going to mop up, clean up etc. etc. every bit of the spilt mixture. It is highly poisenous to animals that are attracted to it because it is sweet.
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27 May 2008, 03:28
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Believe it or not the antidote for Ethelyne Glycol poisoning is alcohol - something like Vodka or Whisky - the stronger the better!!! Very strangely alcohol is also an antidote to the other kind of antifreeze - Methanol.
Ethelyne Glycol is really nasty and sweet tasting.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/7215155.stm
A woman has been found guilty of trying to kill her husband by slipping anti-freeze into his wine and curry.
Mr Knight, a 37-year-old factory worker, suffered kidney failure and brain damage after being poisoned.
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27 May 2008, 03:39
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Originally Posted by codprawn
Believe it or not the antidote for Ethelyne Glycol poisoning is alcohol - something like Vodka or Whisky - the stronger the better!!!
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Have you ever tried giving a cat a "wee dram" ---DON'T
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27 May 2008, 09:13
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Yeah, I do it and it's a right faff. I keep a 50-50 water-a/freeze mix in a 5g can, get a syphon going down to the flush muffs, whack them on the leg, fire her up, as soon as she exhausts blue water switch off. Job done. Prior to this procedure run it up on fresh water to get it up to temp and flush any crap out.
The really tricky bit is to stall it with fogging oil at the same time.
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27 May 2008, 17:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Believe it or not the antidote for Ethelyne Glycol poisoning is alcohol - something like Vodka or Whisky - the stronger the better!!! Very strangely alcohol is also an antidote to the other kind of antifreeze - Methanol.
Ethelyne Glycol is really nasty and sweet tasting.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/s...re/7215155.stm
A woman has been found guilty of trying to kill her husband by slipping anti-freeze into his wine and curry.
Mr Knight, a 37-year-old factory worker, suffered kidney failure and brain damage after being poisoned.
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Alcohols are simply a group of chemicals with a Carbon, Oxygen and Hydrogen bond in a certain way. Ethanol, and methanol are both alcohols.
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28 May 2008, 00:30
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Believe it or not the antidote for Ethelyne Glycol poisoning is alcohol - something like Vodka or Whisky - the stronger the better!!! Very strangely alcohol is also an antidote to the other kind of antifreeze - Methanol.
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Methanol poisoning is usually a result of the methanol being metabolized into some fairly nasty by-products. Small amounts of methanol can be broken down by the body and excreted without too much damage.
Ethyl alcohol and methyl alcohol are seen by the body as being very similar.
By treating with ethyl alcohol (vodka or whiskey above), you are essentially diluting the amount of methanol per unit time that the liver and kidneys process. This drops the resulting toxins below the fatal threshhold. Hopefully.
jky
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28 May 2008, 11:26
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used to be a chap at our club that flushed his outboard with parrafin when he laid it up for the winter. dident have it running he back flushed it through the tell tail outlet.
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28 May 2008, 15:29
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
Methanol poisoning is usually a result of the methanol being metabolized into some fairly nasty by-products. Small amounts of methanol can be broken down by the body and excreted without too much damage.
Ethyl alcohol and methyl alcohol are seen by the body as being very similar.
By treating with ethyl alcohol (vodka or whiskey above), you are essentially diluting the amount of methanol per unit time that the liver and kidneys process. This drops the resulting toxins below the fatal threshhold. Hopefully.
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Why not just drink more Methanol then?
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01 June 2008, 11:28
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Another Wales v USA hijacking load of bollox! The guy asked about flushing his boat with Anti-freeze not drinking the bloody stuff!
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