Fuel Transfer pumps

[vcator]

Is there a better way of transferring petrol from several jerry cans into the RIB built-in tanks ?

My RIB is kept on a trot mooring and there is no longer a nearby marina selling fuel. I'm stuck with taking out jerry cans in the tender, transferring onto the RIB, and then lifting each can up in turn, pouring into the on-board tank filler.
Is there a better way of transferring the fuel into the onboard tank ?

There are 12v transfer pumps claiming 40 Litres/hour, relatively inexpensive, but most say they can be used for diesel or heating oil, but cannot be used with petrol/gas. Has anyone tried one with petrol ?

There are manual pumps, but the flow rates seem too slow to be worth the hassle.

Any suggestions gratefully received.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by vcator

Is there a better way of transferring petrol from several jerry cans into the RIB built-in tanks ?



My RIB is kept on a trot mooring and there is no longer a nearby marina selling fuel. I'm stuck with taking out jerry cans in the tender, transferring onto the RIB, and then lifting each can up in turn, pouring into the on-board tank filler.

Is there a better way of transferring the fuel into the onboard tank ?



There are 12v transfer pumps claiming 40 Litres/hour, relatively inexpensive, but most say they can be used for diesel or heating oil, but cannot be used with petrol/gas. Has anyone tried one with petrol ?



There are manual pumps, but the flow rates seem too slow to be worth the hassle.



Any suggestions gratefully received.

Search Ribnet for “Jiggle Syphon” been discussed many times.

[jeffstevens763@g]

As Dave says lift the can up I tied my to the SS rail around the windscreen on the console get the jiggle syphon going yaks 2 mins for 25 ltrs. I use a fuel line too with the ends off

[willk]

Originally Posted by vcator

Has anyone tried one with petrol ?

Any suggestions gratefully received.

Possibly - but I doubt they'd want to discuss their mistake - if they're even around to do so!

You want one if these (note the presence of an anti-static strip)

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/22mm-x-2m...cAAOSw6Qde-qW3

That diameter will do a 25L drum in under 2 mins. Smaller diameters are a complete waste of time.

[GuyC]

You can also use it to check social distancing distances.

[paintman]

You could consider a 12v car type fuel pump.

Many use in-tank electric pumps.

There are also plenty of pumps that mount outside a tank which you could probably mount on a board with hoses of appropriate length to suit your requirement.
Such as:https://www.demon-tweeks.com/facet-i...el-pump-243226

[beerbelly]

i bought one of them stick type battery operated pumps that states for use with petrol from a local chandlers

[jeffstevens763@g]

Originally Posted by beerbelly

i bought one of them stick type battery operated pumps that states for use with petrol from a local chandlers

blue and grey?

[beerbelly]

it is grey cant remember if it has blue its kept on the boat . i do remember it takes a big battery instead of 2 aaa like my last one that wasnt suitable for petrol

[GuyC]

Originally Posted by paintman

You could consider a 12v car type fuel pump.

Many use in-tank electric pumps.

There are also plenty of pumps that mount outside a tank which you could probably mount on a board with hoses of appropriate length to suit your requirement.
Such as:https://www.demon-tweeks.com/facet-i...el-pump-243226

The only issue with this type of pump is the flow rate. The most powerful one only delivers 3 litres per minute. It's OK if you can secure the jerry can and leave it on to do its thing. Proper ATEX rated petrol transfer pumps are quite expensive and difficult to find. The jingle syphon or beerbelly's suggestion is probably the easiest route to take.

[vcator]

I've seen Gastapper being advertised.

They claim a flow-rate of 6 US gallons/minute (22 ltr/min), although it doesn't look that fast in the youtube reviews

It can lift fuel up to 6', so lifting fuel from from jerry cans in the tender up to the RIB filler shouldn't be a problem. And comes in a vapour-proof case.

Not cheap at just under £100, but the advert shows it to be a neat solution.

Has anyone tried Gastapper ?

[GuyC]

Originally Posted by vcator

.....a flow-rate of 6 US gallons/minute

I think that might be 0.6 gallons per minute.

[vcator]

Originally Posted by GuyC

I think that might be 0.6 gallons per minute.

The youtube clips look far more like 0.6 gal/min, so I think you're right

[Tim M]

The only decent petrol transfer pumps I’ve used are compressed air powered. Worked on two (large) yachts with built in tender refuelling systems - both had the same air powered pump which I gather is very common in petrol filling systems. Also very expensive for filling a small boat.

How many cans are we talking about here? Some years ago I used to work for London RIB Voyages. Some days we’d have to refill 400 litres of petrol using 20l cans (And a Landrover defender to fill them at the local filling station). The choice of funnel is critical for a speedy and easy operation!

Or how about one of these....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362881449120

[Orwell boy]

How many cans are we talking about here? Some years ago I used to work for London RIB Voyages. Some days we’d have to refill 400 litres of petrol using 20l cans (And a Landrover defender to fill them at the local filling station). The choice of funnel is critical for a speedy and easy operation!

Or how about one of these....

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362881449120[/QUOTE]

Bet you wish you had one of those pumps ! would have only taken you 5 minutes under 3 hours to fill up ............can that possibly be right 2.3 litres /min ?

[HDAV]

Why are 12v fuel pumps fitted to cars so much cheaper than 12v fuel transfer pumps?

Flow rate?

[Iankristy]

Originally Posted by Orwell boy

How many cans are we talking about here? Some years ago I used to work for London RIB Voyages. Some days we’d have to refill 400 litres of petrol using 20l cans (And a Landrover defender to fill them at the local filling station). The choice of funnel is critical for a speedy and easy operation!



Or how about one of these....



https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/362881449120

Bet you wish you had one of those pumps ! would have only taken you 5 minutes under 3 hours to fill up ............can that possibly be right 2.3 litres /min ?[/QUOTE]



Yeah agreed the choice of funnel is the key. Not this year obvs but in a normal year of trips I have to put 150ltr plus every day in jerrycans in rib. Here’s what I’ve learned if it helps:
- don’t use stupid filler that comes with jerrycans and stops air getting in/ petroleum getting out
- use a nice large funnel( ideally with filter) filler location affects this, on my previous RC7.8 it was on side of console so had to rig a funnel with a bungy holding it up but on my current Humber it’s a vertical fill and vent arrangement. Much easier and quicker to fill
-when tipping in jerrycans encourage a whirl pool movement of petrol which creates a suction down funnnel,, I learnt this as a young lad making hundreds of litres of mulled wine in a ski resort, when you have 50 bottles of wine to tip into a pot you soon learn that a bottle in each hand swirled will empty twice as fast than just left to glug out [emoji23]
- choose your jerrycan well don’t buy the big metal ones I use the red plastic( rated for petrol)
Usually I can do fill in ten mins(ish). Lastly, and I guess you’ve thought of this, Can’t you get to the quayside to do fill once you’ve got rib with tender? Doing from tender is always going to be a pita[emoji4]