help deciding on a new 150, which one? - Page 2

CJL · 26 April 2012, 23:10

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Originally Posted by Turbodiesel

Sent you a PM!

Any chance you can send me a PM as well?? We are looking for a 150 Merc as well.

Chris

Downhilldai · 27 April 2012, 00:27

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Originally Posted by Chris

Honda is not that bad, surely,

Expensive, heavy, thirsty, lazy.

Jizm · 27 April 2012, 16:18

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Originally Posted by Chris Caton

4 strokes are also for people who like to still be able to talk to each other when cruising at 25 -30 knts, :

With that logic then two strokes are for married couples!

Bigmuz7 · 27 April 2012, 18:36

That new merc looks cool ... I can see that on my next bote

redthunder · 29 April 2012, 07:41

Were running a 2004 Honda 150. Great engine and have had two of them. Not heard of any corrosion issues.

sib · 29 April 2012, 15:52

The new Merc 150 Fourstroke. Got around 20 hrs on mine now, love it.....well with a look. Just don't tell everyone though....

Chris · 29 April 2012, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Expensive, heavy, thirsty, lazy.

Ours is pulling 45 knots on a 7.0meter, has reasonable hole shot and burns less than 1.0 litre per mile at 30 knots and I am hopeful of better performance when its propped correctly as currently its over pitched.

Not bad for a thirsty, heavy lump.. My main issue is it is so big on the transom, makes it difficult to fit an aux !

Not my first choice of motor but it does the job !

Downhilldai · 29 April 2012, 21:41

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Originally Posted by Chris

Ours is pulling 45 knots on a 7.0meter, has reasonable hole shot and burns less than 1.0 litre per mile at 30 knots and I am hopeful of better performance when its propped correctly as currently its over pitched.

Not bad for a thirsty, heavy lump.. My main issue is it is so big on the transom, makes it difficult to fit an aux !

Not my favourite choice of motor but it does the job !

I thought you had a 225, not a 150?

Chris · 29 April 2012, 21:43

I couldn't comment on the 150, never tried one. I thought your comment was more about Hondas in general.

Downhilldai · 29 April 2012, 21:46

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Originally Posted by Chris

I couldn't comment on the 150, never tried one. I thought your comment was more about Hondas in general.

No, I was commenting on the 150s, as that was the question raised.

It would be wrong to make such a generalisation on the entire range.

Chris · 29 April 2012, 21:52

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Originally Posted by Downhilldai

It would be wrong to make such a generalisation on the entire range.

Of course it would !

clydeoutboards · 30 April 2012, 10:14

Hi

the merc 150 4 stroke is all of 12kg lighter so I would be amazed if this comes into your thinking, it has less warranty, is has sold a insignificant percentage of commercial engines with YAM and Honda having the most.

There is no corrosion issues so please think why someone would post such rubbish.

so how would I move forward if I was you .....

If you can try and get an independent trial i.e. ask the dealers to take you out for a quick spin and make your own mind up. Obviously I would pick a top 3 and different dealers to take you out for each different make.

I would also add that this is a great way of at least starting to get to know them as this will be far more important if something does go wrong than choosing between the different manufactures.

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The fact that this was a merc is irrelevant there are bad Honda, Yam dealers as well!

Some dealers will also give better trade in prices than other, and some will even given you a few prices on what your new engine will be worth in x years i.e. we would give you x for it after 5 years with 300-400 hours or y if it has done 4-6 hundred hours.

This will also help you work out how much the different makes will cost you over the years you plan to keep it.

Hope this helps and please before you rule anything out give it a try.

Dave

gotchiguy · 30 April 2012, 16:46

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Originally Posted by clydeoutboards

Hope this helps and please before you rule anything out give it a try.

Dave

Apart from Honda, you can rule them out before you start..

Four-stroke then Suzuki and Mercury would be top choices. Yam not yet released a latest-gen motor to compete with the apparently excellent Merc and the slightly older Suzuki.

Two-stroke then there's only the one choice, a non-HO 150 would be perfect for you

Turbodiesel · 30 April 2012, 18:02

Honda parts, i find are so expensive, just had to order a starter motor for a BF90, it was over £1000. Could not get a pattern part anywhere for it. Merc starter genuine part for a 90 four stroke was about £300.

Erin · 30 April 2012, 18:13

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Originally Posted by gotchiguy

Four-stroke then Suzuki would be top choice.

Do my eyes deceive me? That must have taken you some time to bring yourself to write

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Originally Posted by clydeoutboards

There is no corrosion issues so please think why someone would post such rubbish.

Hmmm, I know of two cases of corrosion issues on Hondas. One from Ribnet and another from a local harbour master. Maybe exceptional cases, but there does seem to be a trend from what I've also read elsewhere. I'm not saying they are the only engines that corrode, but thinking they don't corrode would be wrong. Obviously there's potential for all engines to corrodde, simply due to them being made of various metals and being used in saline conditions.

wellhouse · 30 April 2012, 18:34

so it's looking like mercury or yamaha 150, don't know much about suzuki outboards. Will have to visit a few dealers for prices. thanks everyone

Tim M · 30 April 2012, 18:35

The Honda 150 is pretty frugal if you drive it sensibly, and very quiet. The saddle brackets have a habit of breaking, leaving your engine suspended by only the cables (been there, done it!). I'm not a fan of Hondas, the ones I've had have always had issues.

If I was in the market I would look at either an etec (I love the noise, plus there are servicing benefits. Only real disadvantage is the cost of the oil) or a Suzuki (have run several of these, quiet but still make a nice noise at full chat, and again pretty frugal). Haven't tried a new Merc 4-stroke yet but everyone seems to say good things about them.

PS. Ribex next week at Gunwharf - not too far from you. Might be worth going down and seeing all the options on the water and seeing which one you like the look/sound/smell of.

wellhouse · 30 April 2012, 18:47

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Originally Posted by Tim M

The Honda 150 is pretty frugal if you drive it sensibly, and very quiet. The saddle brackets have a habit of breaking, leaving your engine suspended by only the cables (been there, done it!). I'm not a fan of Hondas, the ones I've had have always had issues.

If I was in the market I would look at either an etec (I love the noise, plus there are servicing benefits. Only real disadvantage is the cost of the oil) or a Suzuki (have run several of these, quiet but still make a nice noise at full chat, and again pretty frugal). Haven't tried a new Merc 4-stroke yet but everyone seems to say good things about them.

PS. Ribex next week at Gunwharf - not too far from you. Might be worth going down and seeing all the options on the water and seeing which one you like the look/sound/smell of.

i'll be there!

Chris Caton · 30 April 2012, 19:28

well, i suppose we could all find something to say about every option out there, but i like my honda 150, never misses a beat, and seems good on fuel to me

maybe it's just some engines suit some ribs better than others

Downhilldai · 30 April 2012, 22:46

People do tend to 'big up' their own stuff. There's no more guilty than 'Chris' on here. After lifelong devotion to the e-tec, he's now waving the Honda flag (although I reckon he still holds a candle for the Ermintroods)