help deciding on a new 150, which one? - Page 3

Mollers · 30 April 2012, 22:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

People do tend to 'big up' their own stuff. There's no more guilty than 'Chris' on here. After lifelong devotion to the e-tec, he's now waving the Honda flag

Can't argue with the guy.

Obviously Optis were the best engines in the World, when I had one.

Chris · 30 April 2012, 23:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

People do tend to 'big up' their own stuff. There's no more guilty than 'Chris' on here. After lifelong devotion to the e-tec, he's now waving the Honda flag (although I reckon he still holds a candle for the Ermintroods)

Spot on

I like e-tecs I have owned and rigged two (115 & 150) and really rate them hence why I am sharing my thoughts. You clearly rate them too as you tried to buy mine several times when I was looking to upgrade.

As for Honda, the jury is still out. I've only put a few hours on it and initially thought it was shit then found that the servicing dealer was incomepetent. Now that I have sorted out the issues they left after the service it's much better and seems to be very frugal on the juice which is a bonus in the current climate. Fingers crossed it turns out to be as enjoyable as the e-tec was !

Chris · 30 April 2012, 23:09

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mollers

Obviously Optis were the best engines in the World, when I had one.

I am going to be really screwed if I ever buy a ribcraft. May have to go through a ribnet name change...

kerny · 30 April 2012, 23:18

Got a 60 Etec and did 76 nm on the Round Anglesey cruise in the chop, I took 99ltrs of fuel with me and came back with 67ltrs I keep checking the fuel to see if I have made a mistake but defo got 67 ltrs left, so 32 ltrs of fuel used

CJL · 30 April 2012, 23:28

Quote:

Originally Posted by sib

The new Merc 150 Fourstroke. Got around 20 hrs on mine now, love it.....well with a look. Just don't tell everyone though....

Downhilldai · 30 April 2012, 23:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Spot on

I like e-tecs I have owned and rigged two (115 & 150) and really rate them hence why I am sharing my thoughts. You clearly rate them too as you tried to buy mine several times when I was looking to upgrade.

Let's get something straight here.

I liked your 6.5 Vipermax and would have been interested in buying it on the TWO occasions you advertised it for sale, but not because of the motor. If I'd bought it, then in all likelihood, the 150 e-tec would have been shipped on. That's not because I have anything against the e-tec, in fact, I nearly bought one last week, but found out it was too heavy for the boat, but that's another story......

Downhilldai · 30 April 2012, 23:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

As for Honda, the jury is still out. I've only put a few hours on it and initially thought it was shit then found that the servicing dealer was incomepetent. Now that I have sorted out the issues they left after the service it's much better and seems to be very frugal on the juice which is a bonus in the current climate. Fingers crossed it turns out to be as enjoyable as the e-tec was !

What were the results of this incompetence?

Chris · 30 April 2012, 23:45

Fuel pissing out of the high pressure fuel filter as they forgot to tighten up the cover and they forgot to fit a new o-ring. So on the Flamouth trip last month we averaged 1.8 litres per mile

however realise now that half the fuel we used on that trip ended up in the sea !

The IAB butterfly valves in the airbox were jammed closed and had not been checked this limits airflow into the engine after 4000 RPM so impacted hole shot and top end performance.

However all sorted now. I should have known better than to trust a marine service agent to do a decent job. Tossers !

Downhilldai · 30 April 2012, 23:53

That is bad.

Chris · 01 May 2012, 08:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Let's get something straight here.

I liked your 6.5 Vipermax and would have been interested in buying it on the TWO occasions you advertised it for sale, but not because of the motor. If I'd bought it, then in all likelihood, the 150 e-tec would have been shipped on. That's not because I have anything against the e-tec, in fact, I nearly bought one last week, but found out it was too heavy for the boat, but that's another story......

And when I was looking to upgrade my 150 to a 200 ? You asked if I would sell you the 150 !

Come on DHD resistance is futile :-)

Downhilldai · 01 May 2012, 10:19

Not for a 6.5m heavy RIB though.

Resistance to what? Not with you there.

Chris · 01 May 2012, 19:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Not for a 6.5m heavy RIB though.

Why, it went well enough... a 175 would of course been better, but I got 43-44 knots at WOT whatever the load was and 1 litre per NM at 30 knots.

Now a 200HO that would have been nice..

Quote:

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

Resistance to what? Not with you there.

Resistance is futile you will be joined into the hive mind of the collective...

HUMBER P4VWL · 01 May 2012, 22:10

175 opti on 6.3 deep v goes well. I like it and it sounds grrrrrrrreat!

Downhilldai · 01 May 2012, 22:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Resistance is futile you will be joined into the hive mind of the collective...

Good job I checked those weights out last week then, or I may have been 'one of the clan' by now

Bet you never expected an e-tec to be heaviest motor in its class........

gotchiguy · 01 May 2012, 22:36

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

Now a 200HO that would have been nice..

No, it wouldn't

A 200 is the same weight as your 150 and is the optimum 6.5 combo according to Roy, and also (on paper) by me! Although a 200HO has 20 more BHP, handling will just be a little bit more sweet with a 200, plus speed increase will be negligible. Based on our own experiences and those of Mollers, I think that "HO" versions of the etec are completely pointless on any type of deep-v hull. Less so the newer models, but still don't justify the increased outlay.

Chris · 01 May 2012, 22:46

Quote:

Originally Posted by gotchiguy

No, it wouldn't

A 200 is the same weight as your 150 and is the optimum 6.5 combo according to Roy, and also (on paper) by me! Although a 200HO has 20 more BHP, handling will just be a little bit more sweet with a 200, plus speed increase will be negligible. Based on our own experiences and those of Mollers, I think that "HO" versions of the etec are completely pointless on any type of deep-v hull. Less so the newer models, but still don't justify the increased outlay.

I had the same info from Roy however I still think an HO would have been fun and the tabs would have sorted out the extra weight !

gotchiguy · 01 May 2012, 23:16

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chris

I had the same info from Roy however I still think an HO would have been fun and the tabs would have sorted out the extra weight !

An MY11 one onwards maybe but pre that no. I do not feel that the L2 is suited to these sorts of boats whatsoever.