Honda 15hp carry handle cracked 2 days old

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by Cumbria

Got my money back dealer great about it and now bought a Suzuki 15hp efi outboard form another great lake district dealer

Thats exactly what I expected he might do hes probably as happy as you are

[SixtyNorth]

Just out of interest, why the switch to Suzuki? I guess the Suzuki should be a bit lighter.

[Cumbria]

Reason why Suzuki, listened to advice from experienced guys. Lighter and new design as EFI.

beamishken - what's your meaning ! Suspect your stating things you know nothing about. I managed this so I can work well with both thinking before I act and ensuring all are happy.. maybe u should do a bit of that.

[69cmw]

Is the 15hp a detuned 20hp? Same weight?

[paintman]

Originally Posted by Cumbria

Yes the plastic handle. Mrs got involved lawyer and written to the local dealer who supplied and wants new engine.
Says it's not fit for purpose and says under sales goods act wants a new one.
Ps tried to keep her out as always tougher than me

If you're going to demand things by quoting law then at least quote the right one!
SOGA 1979 was replaced by the Consumer Rights Act 2015 which came into force on the 1st October 2015.
Goods purchased prior to that date are covered by the SOGA.
As you are a private purchaser 'a consumer' & your purchase was this year your rights are CRA.
Still, probably gave the seller a laugh

[Cumbria]

Originally Posted by paintman

If you're going to demand things by quoting law then at least quote the right one!
SOGA 1979 was replaced by the Consumer Rights Act 2015 which came into force on the 1st October 2015.
Goods purchased prior to that date are covered by the SOGA.
As you are a private purchaser 'a consumer' & your purchase was this year your rights are CRA.
Still, probably gave the seller a laugh

You lot are so friendly and accepting. I think you will find my mrs knows far more than a little pleb like u. ,( so don't preach ) runs her own firm.
So no we did not give seller laugh .

Fed up with this forum a load of idiots trying to score points .
Are some exceptions. Thx haggis for all your help ..

Just fed up of the idiots on here ... Good bye

[Limecc]

Originally Posted by 69cmw

Is the 15hp a detuned 20hp? Same weight?

Yes but in another thread the valid point was made that the torque figures will be about the same, I think the lower rev limit reduces the peak power so probably not much difference in the power until then.

I got talking to a guy in Salcombe who was boasting he'd had his remapped to remove the restriction, I don't know how common this is but it could be a possibility when out of warranty. Personally I went for the Suzuki 20hp from the outset, I think I'd go for the Tohatsu now because of the 7 year warranty.

[Limecc]

Originally Posted by Cumbria

Just fed up of the idiots on here ... Good bye

Shame I was really looking forward to pictures you will be missed. Hope you change your mind.

[willk]

Originally Posted by Cumbria

Just fed up of the idiots on here ... Good bye

Good bye

[beamishken]

I bet the Honda dealer was happy to dodge that bullet!
I'd imagine the profit off a 15hp engine just wasnt worth the agro of a customer like Mr & Mrs Cumbria.
At least theres a choice of 2 Suzuki dealers for when he pisses off the first one[emoji853]
Obviously doesnt appreciate the level of experience here on the forum

[Fender]

Originally Posted by beamishken

Thats exactly what I expected he might do hes probably as happy as you are

Originally Posted by paintman

If you're going to demand things by quoting law then at least quote the right one!
SOGA 1979 was replaced by the Consumer Rights Act 2015 which came into force on the 1st October 2015.
Goods purchased prior to that date are covered by the SOGA.
As you are a private purchaser 'a consumer' & your purchase was this year your rights are CRA.
Still, probably gave the seller a laugh

Originally Posted by willk

Good bye

Originally Posted by beamishken

I bet the Honda dealer was happy to dodge that bullet!
I'd imagine the profit off a 15hp engine just wasnt worth the agro of a customer like Mr & Mrs Cumbria.
At least theres a choice of 2 Suzuki dealers for when he pisses off the first one[emoji853]
Obviously doesnt appreciate the level of experience here on the forum

WOW
What is happening to this forum
Chap purchased an outboard and once home found it was damaged - hardly his fault or am I missing something???

' doesnt appreciate the level of experience here', like all aspects of life( inc this forum), some individuals 'experience' isn't worth the keystrokes they make, you've just got to work out who's full of BS and who's not

IMHO

[Bern Hanreck]

Fender ( Hiya ! ) , have a cup of coffee and then go back and re-read the whole thread ! The OP started very reasonably asking for advice ( which clearly he was never going to accept unless it agreed with Mrs OP ) . By post 23 he was throwing insults out to folk he didn't know . Again in post 26 . It was he who threw a hissy fit ( and toys out of the pram ). Common courtesy does work both ways doesn't it ? Regards Bern.

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by Fender

WOW
What is happening to this forum
Chap purchased an outboard and once home found it was damaged - hardly his fault or am I missing something???

' doesnt appreciate the level of experience here', like all aspects of life( inc this forum), some individuals 'experience' isn't worth the keystrokes they make, you've just got to work out who's full of BS and who's not

IMHO

Think you'll find that sending a solicitors letter demanding a new engine for a cracked handle would be considered heavy handed by most on the forum.
Its not like you'd expect a new car for a flat tyre!
whilst the broken handle wasn't his fault, I doubt it was the dealers either, it may have been faulty from new, it should have been picked up on pdi but maybe wasnt noticed or perhaps got worse by several lifts during collection, who knows? Its how you deal with the problem that counts.
Most forum members would also agree falling out with your outboard dealer from the get go is pretty unwise given the scarcity of dealers around especially in the north.
His attitude to replies on here was imho indicative of someone you would just rather not have in your shop.

[Fender]

Originally Posted by Bern Hanreck

Fender ( Hiya ! ) , have a cup of coffee and then go back and re-read the whole thread ! The OP started very reasonably asking for advice ( which clearly he was never going to accept unless it agreed with Mrs OP ) . By post 23 he was throwing insults out to folk he didn't know . Again in post 26 . It was he who threw a hissy fit ( and toys out of the pram ). Common courtesy does work both ways doesn't it ? Regards Bern.

Morning
Personally, in some of the reply's to the OP's original post there's a undertone of sarcasm and having a little 'dig' - and then things go down hill, maybe its just the way the it reads to me - but again IMHO its not the most constructive thread I've ever read, I do feel a little sorry for the way Cumbria has been treated. Ain't we a funny bunch

[Pikey Dave]

In these days of false bonhomie & insincere caring (aww! inboxed you hun[emoji849]) I find Ribnet an oasis of frank, blunt honest exchanges. It’s not to everybody’s taste or sensibilities, but there’re other (safe) places for those folk to go & play. As long as it stays civil, I can’t see a problem tbh imo etc.
even douchebags are tolerated
The moral of the story; if you don’t want the answer, don’t ask the question.

[Fenlander]

>>>blunt honest exchanges.

Despite having a much softer personal posting style I have no problem with this and when now and again it does go to excess... usually not in the SIB section... then the content soon goes to the bilges.

Looked at carefully Cumbria lit the touch paper in his post #18 when he took Willk and 69cmw's previous totally acceptable posts far too seriously and set himself up for a bit of ribbing(!).

I hope Cumbria appreciates the excellent friendly advice he got here re his new SIB choice from about 10 posters with many decades of experience at sea between them... but at least he can now fully commit to an alternative forum that probably suits him better so win win.

It's win win again for him in respect of the engine too... that he managed to end up swapping the Honda he found really heavy for a lighter cheaper OB just because of an easily replaced plastic part. Don't get that lucky very often.

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by Fenlander

>>>... that he managed to end up swapping the Honda he found really heavy for a lighter cheaper OB just because of an easily replaced plastic part. Don't get that lucky very often.

Aye very serendipitous that mysterious broken handle,funny how things all work out in the end[emoji57]

[jeffstevens763@g]

very lucky outcome on the engine swap though, as for the rest he'll get use to it a bit of banter and pi$$ take never hurt anyone.

[Fender]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

In these days of false bonhomie & insincere caring (aww! inboxed you hun[emoji849]) I find Ribnet an oasis of frank, blunt honest exchanges. It’s not to everybody’s taste or sensibilities, but there’re other (safe) places for those folk to go & play. As long as it stays civil, I can’t see a problem tbh imo etc.
even douchebags are tolerated
The moral of the story; if you don’t want the answer, don’t ask the question.

I can't speak for anyone else nor disagree with anyone's prerogative to interpret a post/intent how ever they see fit - however whatever I say, type or pen I believe in, 100%, every time - my time is too precious to me to waste on otherwise.
I STILL feel the tread could have gone in a more positive way, the OP didn't expect the thread to go in the direction it did when first posing the question, maybe he could have worded his posts better - but then so could some of the responses, not quite a 'RIB community' in this instance

[Highland Haggis]

Well I've spoken to Cumbria and he's a nice fellow people have to remember that people's personality's are different I would have been the exact same if it's where my engine if you where to meet me for first time you would think OMG because I am hipper active but would bend over backwards to help anyone so I think we should give him a bit of slack