Honda 225 ex Race engine solid top mountings

redthunder · 01 January 2010, 14:49

I have been offered an ex race 225 Honda 2008 that has solid top mountings. Will this harm my boat in any way or put extra stress on the transom?

Hightower · 01 January 2010, 15:04

Might help us, help you, if you tell us what Boat/Rib it's going on?

But I'm assuming you mean solid vers rubber mountings?

outboardtech · 01 January 2010, 15:30

these engine's have been worked hard . I fthese are the engine's that the P1 BOY'S use then I would make sure all compressions are too spec with throttle valve closed and at wide open throttle . Check the OIL for no mulsified oil . Is this an engine from the boy's @ solent honda ??

redthunder · 01 January 2010, 15:58

Yes solid rather than rubber. It would be going on a ribcraft 6.8

Chris · 01 January 2010, 16:53

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Originally Posted by redthunder

Yes solid rather than rubber. It would be going on a ribcraft 6.8

I would think it would mean more vibration passing through the hull and yes it would put more stress on the transom, probably worth checking with RibCraft.

Hightower · 01 January 2010, 17:22

RIBcraft are the people you want to contact. A previous MD I worked for used to race in the Honda 4 stroke series, both in 150 and 225 classes. I can tell you that on these boats there are all sort of stress marks around the transom area's, but I would guess these boats are designed for a really hard life.

I can tell you however that whilst these engines do have a hard life when racing, they will have little hours on. As I was led to believe, they are all fully serviced with gearbox refills between race meets too all by the main dealer.

What's the history of the engine?

Is there any warranty left?

9D280 · 04 January 2010, 12:01

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Originally Posted by Hightower

but I would guess these boats are designed for a really hard life.

And probably a short one at that.

Compare to a drag racer - ooooodles of HP from a disproportionately small and highly supercharged engine - which is fine for the racing as long as it survives the 1/4 mile blast 'coz you can rebuild it between races. Phrases involving chocolate teapots come to mind if you want to drive dowm the M1 as it will have exploded by the time you get off the slip road! (extreme example used!

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Jumping back to this Yam, assuming the engine's OK internally, surely it's not a difficult job to replace the solid mounts with the standard ones?

Carl · 04 January 2010, 12:23

possible power head off for the honda

blinddog · 04 January 2010, 12:25

Yam?
Where did that come from? lol

9D280 · 04 January 2010, 12:56

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Originally Posted by blinddog

Yam?
Where did that come from? lol

Don't mind me...... I'm off to make another (strong) coffee........

Theory still stands!

biffer · 04 January 2010, 15:38

solid mount shouldn't hurt, a well tuned honda is both quite and smooth, maybe see if you can get a little bit of guarantee in as much as run it up or fit and sea trail just to make sure it hits top revs without being harsh, if there confident about it's condition i wouldn't think thats to much to ask

jace · 04 January 2010, 15:54

Hi

I would have thought it would be OK as the transoms are very solid but we've no experience of this setup to be honest so I can't give you a 100% answer either way.

If you want to speak to someone, Give Mark a call at the factorym Direct dial 01935 403181

Jason

blinddog · 04 January 2010, 16:46

Could I come in here with a comment before parting with the cash do a little research,
I recall theres an issue either with saddles or mounts breaking on the 225s regularly,
I know the honda guys get them replaced free gratis but lets say they dont bragg about the issue as is not good publicity.
Apart from that sure the motors are ok.

gaZ

Hightower · 04 January 2010, 17:29

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Originally Posted by blinddog

Could I come in here with a comment before parting with the cash do a little research,
I recall theres an issue either with saddles or mounts breaking on the 225s regularly,
I know the honda guys get them replaced free gratis but lets say they dont bragg about the issue as is not good publicity.
Apart from that sure the motors are ok.

gaZ

I thought that it just affected the 150's? These have upgraded 225 saddles.

Jizm · 04 January 2010, 18:08

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Originally Posted by Hightower

I thought that it just affected the 150's? These have upgraded 225 saddles.

That's what I thought?

Cookee · 05 January 2010, 08:43

The 225's have a habit of turning over on an occasional basis, so I would check for salt water ingestion thoroughly!