Honda v-tec 150 or e-tec 150???

Millermob · 08 February 2006, 16:41

Just looking at some new engines for a possible new boat, which would be better overall for cruising and going out for a blast? Best fuel consumption overall view of which would be better for a 6.2 metre rib.

codprawn · 08 February 2006, 17:27

Most of the engines are good and they all seem to use pretty much the same amount of fuel so I think you need to look at the best deal you can find.

Suzukis are great motors and are well priced. Also look at the weights of the engines in the range you are looking at. ETECs are lighter than the 4 strokes for similar power.

Roy Smith · 08 February 2006, 17:30

E-tec,s are lighter but no better than a four stroke on fuel
steer clear of the honda
Give the 150 Yamaha ago i two people with them.

Dino · 08 February 2006, 18:17

Yamaha 150 hpdi

(unbiased report obviously!)

Millermob · 08 February 2006, 18:23

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Originally Posted by Roy Smith

E-tec,s are lighter but no better than a four stroke on fuel
steer clear of the honda
Give the 150 Yamaha ago i two people with them.

Any reason why i should steer clear of the honda, i've got a 90 now and its great, never had a problem.

codprawn · 08 February 2006, 18:31

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Originally Posted by Millermob

Any reason why i should steer clear of the honda, i've got a 90 now and its great, never had a problem.

I think it's just because they are quite an old design now - they seem to have stagnated somewhat - all the other makers are constantly pushing the designs forawrds.

Millermob · 08 February 2006, 18:48

I thought the 150 v-tec was relatively new in the outboard world.

The Garfish · 08 February 2006, 19:38

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Originally Posted by codprawn

I think it's just because they are quite an old design now

ifn ignerense iz blisss codsporns a verry appy likkul buny

gArf

codprawn · 08 February 2006, 20:48

Well maybe if Honda put out a bit more info on their website then we would ALL be more aware your fishiness!!!

http://www.honda.co.uk/marine/RangeS...rangeValue=150

Honda may make fine engines but they don't make it very clear on their website!!!

Hugh Jardon · 08 February 2006, 21:33

i have had a honda for 8 years now and it has been perfect, the new vtec 150 is a very nice engine so i think you would be fine with it and i have seen quite a few ribs with them, apparently a few boats in chichester have the 150 hondas. some dealers who also sell suzukis rave about the 150 honda.

i did post a engine test of the 150s and the honda was in there, do a search on engines and honda for a read

it does seem that hondas are a bit unfashionable on here but most folks who have them love em

i am unbiased as i have a honda, a yamaha, a mercury and an evinrude

Hugh Jardon · 08 February 2006, 21:36

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Originally Posted by codprawn

Well maybe if Honda put out a bit more info on their website then we would ALL be more aware your fishiness!!!

http://www.honda.co.uk/marine/RangeS...rangeValue=150

Honda may make fine engines but they don't make it very clear on their website!!!

not everyone relies on google when giving advice

it might be better to do a little research before dismissing one of the worlds leading engine manufacturers!!

codprawn · 08 February 2006, 22:11

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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

not everyone relies on google when giving advice

it might be better to do a little research before dismissing one of the worlds leading engine manufacturers!!

NOT Google - Honda's OWN website!!!

Maybe I should have googled it - would have found out a lot more than through Honda!!!

signum · 08 February 2006, 23:23

here in greece hondas' are off fashion...some words here where about their services...a lot of movable parts if i recall well and very very expensive services...maybe and beacause of the importer....he is fire!!!!!...for the e-tecs the words are that they are very reliable services after 300hrs and in the beggining hours they burn almost same as HPDI yamaha..but after some hours they are very affortable.....no here our fashion is the VERADO turbo mostly in twin 2x250 or 2x275...the first tests showed that untill 4000rpm are very very cheap...cheaper maybe than the typical 4str or 2str...but after 4000rpms.......uhaaaaaaaa burn baby burn!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ADS · 09 February 2006, 10:20

Im not entirely sure why Hondas are considered out of fashion, obviously they are abit over weight etc, but they don't seem to command the same respect as some of Honda's other products. Take the Type R Civic, journalists rave about that engine, the S2000's engine and the hugely underated NSX. Im not really into bikes but I understand Honda make some highly respected machinery in this field too. The Honda 225HP outboard has VTEC, just like the Type R's yet doesn't share the same following...........

signum · 09 February 2006, 14:08

in cars and motos honda is in top.in outboards at least here only some of the majority uses them but they are not as fast?,as reliable? as the others....suzuki,yamaha,johnson.
maybe as i said and above here we can blaim a little also the dealer who is fire in parts and services....double than all the rest....

The Garfish · 09 February 2006, 15:06

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Originally Posted by ADS

Im not entirely sure why Hondas are considered out of fashion,

ownly inn de werld ov ribnobburs.

de restt ov de botin wurld ar kwite appy wiv dem.

gArf

Hugh Jardon · 09 February 2006, 15:10

As garfie says they are the engine of choice in a lot of areas outside ribbing. Love my honda 90.

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Garfish

ownly inn de werld ov ribnobburs.

de restt ov de botin wurld ar kwite appy wiv dem.

gArf

The Edges · 09 February 2006, 17:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by codprawn

I think it's just because they are quite an old design now - they seem to have stagnated somewhat - all the other makers are constantly pushing the designs forawrds.

And they weigh tonnes

Srellom · 09 February 2006, 18:44

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Originally Posted by The Garfish

ownly inn de werld ov ribnobburs.

de restt ov de botin wurld ar kwite appy wiv dem.

gArf

Not sure that I agree with you there Garfie ya nobba. If one were to take a walk around a handful of marinas and conduct a survey of over 90hp outboard brands attached to the various craft. I think that in terms of numbers Honda would be fairly well down the list. Ribnobbers is not quite influential enough to determine the whole boating fraternities buying habits.
I still think that they'll be back with some high tech crackers before too long.

signum · 09 February 2006, 19:34

i beleive that honda made the revolution by entering the 4str in the market.....but they did not follow the stream up but they held themselves back.....or the others made faster steps...hpdi,e-tec,verado etc
my opinion should be to make better torque/hp,less weight and maybe more cc?
anyways to return to honda vs e-tec.....
honda is 4str that means other type of force..more like a car...smouth...no smoke like 2str e-tec, less torque,more services (amount of money) since e-tec needs every 300 hours a simple impeller....(depending on the usage)...
then it is the cost of buying? does honda or e-tec are value for money?
in the years to come which motor will be more reliable for resell??
take all theese under consideration,,,and as i usually say..it's yr money,it's yr party....so try to party well and don't regret!