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26 May 2007, 15:51
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Country: UK - England
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How accurate are the Fuel Flow meters
I have an evinrude e-tec 250 connected to a Ballistic 7.8. Whilst out today I noted that at 4000 rpm the fuel flow meter was reading 50 l/h and at 5000 rpm it was reading 72 l/h. These values seem extreemly high. The figures quoted in the Rib Magazine review of the engine attached to the same boat quote 24 l/h and 36 l/h respectivley.
My question is, is my fuel flow meter giving dodgy readings or is the engine burning to much. Can anyone else with a simular setup comment on these figures.
Thanks
Neil
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26 May 2007, 16:01
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Country: UK - England
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what speed were you traveling at?
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Originally Posted by neilb
I have an evinrude e-tec 250 connected to a Ballistic 7.8. Whilst out today I noted that at 4000 rpm the fuel flow meter was reading 50 l/h and at 5000 rpm it was reading 72 l/h. These values seem extreemly high. The figures quoted in the Rib Magazine review of the engine attached to the same boat quote 24 l/h and 36 l/h respectivley.
My question is, is my fuel flow meter giving dodgy readings or is the engine burning to much. Can anyone else with a simular setup comment on these figures.
Thanks
Neil
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26 May 2007, 16:21
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Country: UK - England
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Engine: Evinrude 250 etec
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Today I was travelling at around 40mph at 4000rpm and 48mph at 5000rpm taken from the GPS.
Engine maxs out at just over 5000rpm
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26 May 2007, 17:10
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Country: UK - England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neilb
Today I was travelling at around 40mph at 4000rpm and 48mph at 5000rpm taken from the GPS.
Engine maxs out at just over 5000rpm
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By my calcs then you were running at 1.4 litres per nm and then 1.7 litres per nm. Maybe not the best figures in the world but not massivley out either I dont think. My Opti 225 used to return around 1.3 and 1.5 l/nm at similiar speeds and my Verado 275 is obviously a little higher so I think it sounds about right...
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26 May 2007, 17:32
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You know, you have to calibrate the fuel meter? The more often you do that, the better the results.
I have an Evinrude 250 DI 2004 with 60km/hr and 40 lt/hr at 4000 r/m and
80km/hr, 58 lt/hr at 5000 r/m.
At 5900 r/m 98 km/hr and 94 lt/hr.
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26 May 2007, 17:50
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The figures from the artical ribmagazine.com big guns shootout are:
RPM FUEL CONSUMPTION
2,000 6 litres per hour
3,000 12 litres per hour
4,000 24 litres per hour
5,000 36 litres per hour
My reading are far from this.
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26 May 2007, 18:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neilb
The figures from the artical ribmagazine.com big guns shootout are:
RPM FUEL CONSUMPTION
2,000 6 litres per hour
3,000 12 litres per hour
4,000 24 litres per hour
5,000 36 litres per hour
My reading are far from this.
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I find those very hard to believe, it would put you under a litre per mile and for a 250 hp engine thats pretty amazing. Wonder how they made that calculation?
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26 May 2007, 19:48
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The artical quotes the following:
YAMAHA F250 V6
RPM FUEL CONSUMPTION
2,000 6 litres per hour
3,000 12 litres per hour
4,000 21 litres per hour
5,000 48 litres per hour
MERCURY VERADO 250
RPM FUEL CONSUMPTION
2,000 6 litres per hour
3,000 9 litres per hour
4,000 21 litres per hour
5,000 72 litres per hour
SUZUKI V6 250
2,000 3 litres per hour
3,000 9 litres per hour
4,000 18 litres per hour
5,000 44 litres per hour
EVINRUDE E-TEC 250
2,000 6 litres per hour
3,000 12 litres per hour
4,000 24 litres per hour
5,000 36 litres per hour
They do seem very low figures for the size of engines.
Neil
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26 May 2007, 22:34
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Country: UK - England
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Engine: Twin 250hp Suzuki
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If those figures are correct how glad am I that I have gone for Suzuki!!
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27 May 2007, 10:29
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I think you will find there was a "degree of controversy" over the RIBinternational article in the first place - http://rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=12623
There is an old "rule of thumb" that each 10HP required 1 US gal per hour at full throttle in "traditional 2 strokes". Thats about 96 L/h for a 250 HP. 4-strokes apparently use about 25% less. And the DI 2-strokes are usually claimed to have similar efficiency to a 4-stroke ... so at FULL throttle I would expect a 250 HP Etec to burn around 70 L/h.
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27 May 2007, 19:56
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My 150hp Opti burns 60l/hr at WOT according to the Smartcraft gauge.
It's reasonably accurate as what we put in after each trip is within a few litres of what the gauge claims has been burnt.
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27 May 2007, 20:22
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Country: UK - England
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Suzuki 300
My Suzuki 300, at 5400rpm (WOT 6300) but on over pitched prop (1.5in) 49knts on a RIBCRAFT 7.8 with 2 crew and full fuel load is burnig 84Lh very slight sea state.
Dissapoiting that the new fly by wire system and all digi readouts dosn't have a facility to display a average burn rate over a specific transit / leg. Or perhaps it does and I just hav't read the instruction booklet properly.
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27 May 2007, 21:58
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We run twin 200 ETECs on our Humbers. At 4000rpm we are cruising at about 30 knots and burning 43 litres/hour/engine. RPMs and speeds will of course depend on prop size, sea conditions and boat loading, but I reckon that your figures sound reasonably accurate.
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27 May 2007, 23:55
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: CONWY/CORFU
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Quote:
Originally Posted by neilb
I have an evinrude e-tec 250 connected to a Ballistic 7.8. Whilst out today I noted that at 4000 rpm the fuel flow meter was reading 50 l/h and at 5000 rpm it was reading 72 l/h. These values seem extreemly high. The figures quoted in the Rib Magazine review of the engine attached to the same boat quote 24 l/h and 36 l/h respectivley.
My question is, is my fuel flow meter giving dodgy readings or is the engine burning to much. Can anyone else with a simular setup comment on these figures.
Thanks
Neil
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Does seem a little high....just been out this week end running etec 225 ho on 8mt ribs getting 35lts-40lts @4000 rpm, choppy water/24pich prop
Our 6.7mtr rib with a 175 etec done 126lts over 137miles..... have you set your calibration on the guage....
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28 May 2007, 22:53
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Town: Dublin
Boat name: WIZARD
Make: REDBAY 7.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: OPTI 225
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Engine maxs out at just over 5000rpm [/QUOTE]
Your fuel figures sound a little High , But from the sounds of it your over proped , and this could account for you higher fuel burn
The Rib magazine, are unrealistic...... and you might get 10% better if you have the boat set up and trimmed right.
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29 May 2007, 11:16
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Make: BALLISTIC
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Engine: 2 x 200hp etec's
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drivers and trim make a diffrance ?
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