How much discount?

Erin · 07 January 2008, 20:29

How much discount would you expect off a new 200 4-stroke?

Nos4r2 · 07 January 2008, 21:15

At least 17.5% if I'm right and you don't pay VAT in the channel islands?

matt h · 07 January 2008, 21:52

Loads if its merc/suzuki/mariner, Not a lot for Honda or Yamaha,

Erin · 08 January 2008, 19:53

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

At least 17.5% if I'm right and you don't pay VAT in the channel islands?

Yep, absolutely right, no Vat in Jersey yet! So would 12.5% seem slightly mean? or fair?

Limey Linda · 08 January 2008, 20:58

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Originally Posted by Erin

Yep, absolutely right, no Vat in Jersey yet! So would 12.5% seem slightly mean? or fair?

So what has "fair" got to do with it? Make a low ball offer and negotiate from there. Don't forget " what else can you throw in?" to make the deal more attractive. Oil, spare plugs, cables, free service, etc. etc.

Dirk Diggler · 08 January 2008, 21:12

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Originally Posted by Limey Linda

So what has "fair" got to do with it? Make a low ball offer and negotiate from there. Don't forget " what else can you throw in?" to make the deal more attractive. Oil, spare plugs, cables, free service, etc. etc.

So how much profit do you think there is in a new motor?

Limey Linda · 08 January 2008, 21:29

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

So how much profit do you think there is in a new motor?

That depend on your definition of profit. Are you talking about mark up to the price the seller paid for it? Did the seller buy it from a distributor or from the manufacturer. Has the seller had to pay import duty or VAT on it? Does the seller own the engine or is he selling it on consignment? Makes a HUGE difference. If you talking about the difference between the price the manufacturer sold it to a primary distributor for and the recommended retail price: I would guess at at least 80% and maybe as high as 100%

Dirk Diggler · 08 January 2008, 21:37

I think we both know what I'm talking about.

profit for the retailer, selling it to the customer (end user). If you think 80 to 100%, then your dumber than you make out!

Limey Linda · 08 January 2008, 21:43

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Originally Posted by Dirk Diggler

I think we both know what I'm talking about.

profit for the retailer, selling it to the customer (end user). If you think 80 to 100%, then your dumber than you make out!

That is not what I said. Read again more carefully. Next time I am in Hamble I will have to drop by and diggle your dirk.

BTW, sorry to hear about the loss of Budgie

Hightower · 08 January 2008, 22:21

From what I've been told there's not much profit selling Evinrude and Johnson motors, the money is in the servicing.

Nos4r2 · 09 January 2008, 00:46

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Originally Posted by Erin

Yep, absolutely right, no Vat in Jersey yet! So would 12.5% seem slightly mean? or fair?

Well...if you could get 12.5% off and VAT free then that sounds pretty good

. If they won't let you have it VAT free then something's wrong as you don't have to pay VAT.

Hightower · 09 January 2008, 00:55

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Well...if you could get 12.5% off and VAT free then that sounds pretty good

. If they won't let you have it VAT free then something's wrong as you don't have to pay VAT.

Isn't there a way of reclaiming VAT if bought in the UK for shipment abroad?

Nos4r2 · 09 January 2008, 02:21

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Originally Posted by Hightower

Isn't there a way of reclaiming VAT if bought in the UK for shipment abroad?

I thought you could make a declaration and not pay it in the 1st place if you showed your passport (or something like that)?

Limey Linda · 09 January 2008, 02:26

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

I thought you could make a declaration and not pay it in the 1st place?

From distant memory I think Nos is correct. However, you need to have it sealed(bonded) to prove it has not been used in the UK

Nick Hearne · 09 January 2008, 12:26

As long as I get a certificate of shipment out side the EU then we do not charge the Vat! But if I do not get this I have to pay the Vat even if I did not charge it!

Dirk Diggler · 09 January 2008, 12:45

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Originally Posted by Nick Hearne

As long as I get a certificate of shipment out side the EU then we do not charge the Vat! But if I do not get this I have to pay the Vat even if I did not charge it!

Same here, I sold a boat into Guernsey a few years ago, and was instructed by the customs & excise to get the paperwork stamped by the ferry company in Portsmouth, as proof of it leaving the UK, so that I didn't have to charge the customer the vat.

Erin · 09 January 2008, 20:06

Easily said this Vat thing. A very complicated subject as Roy at Osprey would no doubt confirm !

I'm buying the engine from a Channel Island dealer so no probs with Vat. If it were coming from the UK I'd be making sure it was an export order and either supplied/freighted direct to me with no Vat or I'd have to use a retail scheme and reclaim the Vat after export. Both methods require proof of overseas status and certificate of shipment.

So to cut to the chase.... £8,200 for a Suzzy 200 inc fitting to transom sounds good

Limey Linda · 09 January 2008, 20:46

That price sounds good to me also. Probably could not do better in the USA.