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31 January 2006, 16:01
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In or out?
Hi Guys,
Another technical question if someone has a minute or three. I have now decided on the rib I want, but am unsure as to inboard or outboard. I know that outboard should be an advantage in shallow water, but are there any further advantages? Are outboards more noisy or smelly for example? Is there more of a fire risk with inboards?
Be grateful for opinions and comments.
Tx.
Rupert.
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31 January 2006, 16:07
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Hi Rupert,
This thread written by Louise should hopefully give you a few pointers:
http://www.rib.net/forum/showthread.php?t=8996
Hope that helps!
Jimbo
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31 January 2006, 16:12
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I think the main thing to consider is as to whether you want diesel or petrol. Primarily inbord engines are diesel, therefore this will give rise to less danger in having a fire on board.
Also bear in mind how much deck space do you require as inboards do take up alot of space.
Hope this helps. Any more help just ask.
Simon
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31 January 2006, 16:16
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Tx SImon and Jimbo.
Relevant to my question I suppose is the cost of diesel. I know that diesel is cheaper in the UK, and probably in France. Does anyone know how much it is (or whether the same convenience) applies when fuelling in the Channel Islands?
Tx.
Rupert.
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31 January 2006, 16:51
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Originally Posted by rupert
Relevant to my question I suppose is the cost of diesel. I know that diesel is cheaper in the UK, and probably in France. Does anyone know how much it is (or whether the same convenience) applies when fuelling in the Channel Islands?
Tx.
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In St Peter Port the price Christmas time was
45p UL and 47p Super, Diesel is 34p
And they have them all on the pontoons.
If I lived in Guernsey it would be a petrol outboard without a doubt!!! If you need to refuel in France I don't think they use red diesel so lot more expensive than here!!!
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31 January 2006, 17:36
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tx.
Tx. I take your point about a Petrol in Guernsey. However, you quotes prices where diesel is cheaper than petrol. Is this correct?
Tx. Rupert.
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31 January 2006, 17:55
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Tx. I take your point about a Petrol in Guernsey. However, you quotes prices where diesel is cheaper than petrol. Is this correct?
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I assume so - those are the prices they emailed me.
But remember - UK mainland we pay 95p for petrol and 34p for diesel. Prices FAR closer in Channel Islands. When you take the price of marine diesel engines into account you would have to do a hell of a lot of boating to make up the difference!!!
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31 January 2006, 18:32
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Tx.
Point taken.
Tx.
Rupert.
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31 January 2006, 18:41
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Thats because marine diesel in France is dyed Blue.
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31 January 2006, 19:11
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Thats because marine diesel in France is dyed Blue.
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HA HA - ok low duty then!!!
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31 January 2006, 19:18
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34p for diesel.
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Try 64ppl last time I bought red diesel in Gosport. Cowes a bit cheaper but not much.
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31 January 2006, 19:21
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Try 64ppl last time I bought red diesel in Gosport. Cowes a bit cheaper but not much.
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Thats a more realistic figure
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31 January 2006, 19:27
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HA HA - ok low duty then!!!
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I am assuming if they go to the trouble of dying it that there is a tax reduction, compared to road fuel.
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31 January 2006, 20:19
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Thats a more realistic figure
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Not in Swansea!!!
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31 January 2006, 20:23
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I am assuming if they go to the trouble of dying it that there is a tax reduction, compared to road fuel.
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Yes but only commercial boaters are allowed to use it!!!
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31 January 2006, 20:43
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Quote:
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Diesel is 34p
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pete7
Try 64ppl last time I bought red diesel in Gosport. Cowes a bit cheaper but not much.
Pete
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Quote:
Originally Posted by pressman
Thats a more realistic figure
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Not in Swansea!!!
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Well if someone has a Fuel Lorry they had better get themselves to Swansea as there is a business opportunity to be had here and ship it back to the South
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31 January 2006, 20:52
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Well if someone has a Fuel Lorry they had better get themselves to Swansea as there is a business opportunity to be had here and ship it back to the South
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31 January 2006, 22:27
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Well if someone has a Fuel Lorry they had better get themselves to Swansea as there is a business opportunity to be had here and ship it back to the South
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Yes but I think you will find they tend to be owned by people like Texaco!!! Why not take the fuel to the North of Scotland - even more expensive there!!!
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31 January 2006, 22:32
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Red Diesel in Scrabster is about 23ppl.
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31 January 2006, 22:38
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Red Diesel in Scrabster is about 23ppl.
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What - even now with the stupidly high oil price??? If so the government are ripping us off even more than I thought!!!!
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