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Old 27 August 2022, 09:03   #1
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Hi I am looking for a prop for this outboard and have these numbers to go on but all my searching does not bring up what I'm looking for or I'm not understanding the way I search can any one point me in the right direction please.
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Old 27 August 2022, 11:28   #2
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Wonder if there is a number missing between the 3 and the 4 as the space looks big enough?
Tried a prop search for the engine to see if that - or a close number - comes up?
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Old 28 August 2022, 20:55   #3
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Well I tried. But to no avail.
I saw this sticker on the engine though today could you identify the prop by this !Click image for larger version

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But I still do not understand it .
Well I'm getting on in life so what's to be expected [emoji846]
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Old 29 August 2022, 10:05   #5
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Well I tried. But to no avail.
I saw this sticker on the engine though today could you identify the prop by this !Attachment 141401
Think the top numbers relate to prop size.
bottom numbers are gear ratio.
A visit to your local dealer with all those numbers should help.
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Think you’ll find both relate to gear ratio. [emoji3]
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2.00:1 is the gearbox ratio.

I think the other numbers relate to the 13 tooth gear on the driveshaft which engage with the 26 tooth F&R gears on the propeller shaft. (26 divided by 13 is 2). But I stand to be corrected!
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Well that's confused me even more now haha. I guess I'll have to take it into a shop somewhere
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Old 30 August 2022, 16:50   #9
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What year of motor? (even roughly)
2 cylinder or 3 cylinder?
Carburettor or EFI?
Any clues on the engine serial number.

Reckon there's a fair chance this is close to what you have... 2 cylinder, 2:1 gear ratio, carb.
BUT, nothing listed for props. Damn.

https://ribsmarineparts.co.uk/en-GB/...001-gear-ratio
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Play with this site & it does give a prop size but your serial number (from your other thread) doesn't appear to work so you'll have to enter all details.
https://www.crowleymarine.com/
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Old 30 August 2022, 19:24   #11
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This is what my serial no is.
It says its a msl year 2000.i tried the Crawley marine. And it seems to come within a range from Belgium and also called a 40m as far as I can tell.
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Should be other numbers on the prop somewhere, possibly the other end of the hub. But with that hp and gear ratio I'd think around 10.5x14p would be standard
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Thankyou. I've studied the prop all over but that's the only markings there is.
The mind boggles
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Should be other numbers on the prop somewhere, possibly the other end of the hub. But with that hp and gear ratio I'd think around 10.5x14p would be standard
Agree with this, this will be the ballpark.
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Thankyou. I've studied the prop all over but that's the only markings there is.
The mind boggles
Quite possibly even an aftermarket prop! Plus merc engine serial numbers changing in the early 90's, sometimes you almost feel like a historian, perhaps even an archaeologist, trying to find anything out.

Depending where you are based, there are a few places you could get to measure it for you to set a baseline (I assume you are wanting a new prop?)
But then if it's measured at 13.5" - on a cast prop there's always a bit of variation - so that could still be between a new prop pitch of 12.5" to 14.5" maybe. Unless you're comparing like for like, or lab finished props, it's very hard to be precise.
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Old 01 September 2022, 08:33   #16
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I think you've hit it on the head there.
trying to find out any info on this machine is like digging on the beach for one multi coloured sand grain. "But from the beach on the moon "
Even the suppliers don't seem very willing to help much.
I feel like giving up sometimes.
But not yet.
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Oh it's not that bad. I think there's a small range of props it needs, depending on the boat you want to run it on. And on the 2 strokes, you can "get away" with a fair bit as well - ie if it's 200rpm over the rev limit at full speed, lightly loaded, that's neither here not there on a 2 stroke.

The issue is that the dealers can use the "tools" they have to look up part numbers and so forth for you - but if you've got an unknown prop on it that they can't cross reference - there's not much more they can help you with. They could spend half a day researching it for you, but on a 22 year old motor, you're not likely to be buying a brand new mercury marine prop from them for it....and even if you did, there's very little margin to them on an item like this. Moreover, the part is also probably NLA from mercury, so they spend all the time for nothing.

You've pretty much got access to all the tools a dealer would have - some people use crowley marine, I use https://ribsmarineparts.co.uk/

I've probably spent half an hour browsing the parts catalogues for you, on this, myself.

I know one dealer that has a hard limit on the age of engine he'll work on. Solely because if it's older than that, he can be sure that every nut & bolt will be seized and parts will be hard to get. And also, that the customer won't want to pay the time it takes him to carefully drill out and probably have to helicoil all the seized bolts - because if they were happy to pay that kind of labour, their money would like be better spent on a newer motor.

This doesn't mean the older motors aren't worth it - just that they do have a business to run. Both my outboards are 20+ years old. And guess what - doing a water pump on each - had to replace the gearbox on both of them because the bolts were seized so badly they'd cracked the housings! But they're nice motors in good condition (now) and I do all the work myself, so it's fine.

Anyway, it looks to me like you've got an after market prop on it - that complicates things. All my mercury props have what I'd call a "proper" part number on them I can identify. Challenge will be if you can find who it came from.

If you're looking to buy a new prop, try these guys : https://www.steeldevelopments.net/
They could probably refurb your current prop too, if you wished.

If you're looking for used, keep an eye on ebay. I've actually got 3 props for my boat, in 3 different pitches, to trial each one of them. One is borrowed, the other 2 were ebay specials.
I've run 2 of them (the finest pair), but I need to have a go with the coarsest one at some point.
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Old 01 September 2022, 23:16   #18
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Matt thankyou very much for your help and support. I really appreciate it. Like I said I seem to be going nowhere fast but now seem to at least starting to understand the crazy world of older outboards and support.
Thanks again
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