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14 July 2014, 11:22
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sheffield
Boat name: Touch Bottom
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50 hp Merc Power t&t
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Merc 9.8 Two stroke missfire
Can any one help, we have missfire on Brown band 9.8 Two stroke. I have done a search but could not find any posts that may help. Have got new plugs in serviced the carb new gaskets etc. and checked float level. I suspect electrical gremmlins but dont know where to start and we dont have any testing gear. Are there any know issues with this engine, or is there any one near South Yorkshire/Sheffield that could help.
Many Thanks in advance....
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14 July 2014, 23:19
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Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
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How old is that engine ? What is a Brown Band. Missfires at idle, throughout the whole throttle range ? Missfires and sputters ?
Happy Boating
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15 July 2014, 10:38
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Country: UK - England
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Boat name: Touch Bottom
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
How old is that engine ? What is a Brown Band. Missfires at idle, throughout the whole throttle range ? Missfires and sputters ?
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Brown band = c 1985, missfire throughout range.
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15 July 2014, 19:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: bicester
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Have you tried keeping hand pressure on the primer bulb? If that cures it fit a fuel pump diaphram kit. if it dont cure it see below,is the fuel tank breather open? straight after you have run the obm, have you taken the fuel tank cap of? did it make a sucking soun d? if so check the fuel tank breather.
1/ are they the correct spark plugs?have you tried swopping the s/plugs over does the fault follow? if so it is probally the s/plug.
2/ if the s/plugs are correct, are the s/plug electrode the same colour?when removed DONT wipe the electrods
3/ if they are the same colour are they a dark or a light colour?
4/ Does the tips of the spark plugs have a glittery effect?
5/ If s/plugs have a glittery effect on the electrode do a compression test.
Please see above there is something to keep you out of mischief.
Please let me know how you get on
GENTLY pull the electrical wires coming out of the stator is one loose?
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15 July 2014, 20:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sheffield
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle al
Have you tried keeping hand pressure on the primer bulb? If that cures it fit a fuel pump diaphram kit. if it dont cure it see below,is the fuel tank breather open? straight after you have run the obm, have you taken the fuel tank cap of? did it make a sucking soun d? if so check the fuel tank breather.
1/ are they the correct spark plugs?have you tried swopping the s/plugs over does the fault follow? if so it is probally the s/plug.
2/ if the s/plugs are correct, are the s/plug electrode the same colour?when removed DONT wipe the electrods
3/ if they are the same colour are they a dark or a light colour?
4/ Does the tips of the spark plugs have a glittery effect?
5/ If s/plugs have a glittery effect on the electrode do a compression test.
Please see above there is something to keep you out of mischief.
Please let me know how you get on
GENTLY pull the electrical wires coming out of the stator is one loose?
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Cheers Al.
I will have a go at those things next chance I get, will most likely be next week now....
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15 July 2014, 23:27
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Town: Gillingham Dorset
Boat name: Green Marlin
Make: Quickilver
Length: 5m +
Engine: 90hp Mariner
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Misfire on 2 strokes is often four stroking as its referred to, usually caused by misfuelling, so they fire every other stroke instead.
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16 July 2014, 08:52
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Town: bicester
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cptsideways, thats a good one as well, stale petrol is another.
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21 July 2014, 17:08
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Check the flywheel key way has not broken and the timing has moved. Seen that loads of times on that engine. You have to pull the flywheel off to check though.
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22 July 2014, 09:41
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
Join Date: Mar 2008
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Merc 9.8 Two stroke missfire
In general most 4 stroking on 2 stroke outboards is more likely when its not under much load eg when going slow or its running light in a following sea or going down stream in a river .
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23 July 2014, 09:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Sheffield
Boat name: Touch Bottom
Make: Avon
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50 hp Merc Power t&t
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Sorted now guys, discovered the stator was breaking down. Turns out I was right about the electrical gremlins. many thanks for your input...
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