Merc or Suzuki 115 ?

[sib]

I am going to buy a new engine. 115 is around the right power, does anyone have any views on which one . I hear that Suzuki have a good rep but I might be able to get the Merc cheaper...

[Turbodiesel]

Have a look at where your nearest dealer is, there both pretty good so you have to look at what else you get. Good back up, good spares, running costs, and can you get it fixed quick in the middle of the summer when you really want to use it!. Personally Mercury is the best but i would say that! Other thought is Optimax 115/125hp. Less money than the four stroke and a little more fun!

[Boats&Outboards]

Suzuki Hands down every time for my money. I should say Merc as in the used market you get a lot more of them come in. Suzuki hardly ever. That says it all!!

Peter ~ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

[Downhilldai]

Originally Posted by Turbodiesel

Other thought is Optimax 115/125hp. Less money than the four stroke and a little more fun!

115 Opti - good motor.

I don't know how prices compare, but if the Evinrood brand is available for consideration, the 115 e-tec may be worth a look. I had a ski behind a RIB with one on a couple of weeks ago and its torque was incredible.

[Boats&Outboards]

If your going 2 stroke opti is a good shout. If your wanting 4 stroke its a no brainer.

Peter ~ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

[Poly]

Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards

Suzuki Hands down every time for my money. I should say Merc as in the used market you get a lot more of them come in. Suzuki hardly ever. That says it all!!

What does that say?

- that Merc sold more engines in the first place?
- that all the Suzi's have disolved/siezed and so aren't sold on?
- that perhaps Suzi dealers do good trade ins for brand loyal customers?
- that Merc dealers spend less time getting the right size engine?
- that Merc have had some big commercial customers which mean there are lots of used "contract service/lease" engines in circulation?
- that Suzi's are often sold as part of a boat/engine package and so perhaps to the type of owner who is less likely to chop and change an engine?


I'm not implying that any of these are actually the case, but rarity doesn't always correlate to desirability.

[HUMBER P4VWL]

Originally Posted by Polwart

What does that say?

- that Merc sold more engines in the first place?
- that all the Suzi's have disolved/siezed and so aren't sold on?
- that perhaps Suzi dealers do good trade ins for brand loyal customers?
- that Merc dealers spend less time getting the right size engine?
- that Merc have had some big commercial customers which mean there are lots of used "contract service/lease" engines in circulation?
- that Suzi's are often sold as part of a boat/engine package and so perhaps to the type of owner who is less likely to chop and change an engine?


I'm not implying that any of these are actually the case, but rarity doesn't always correlate to desirability.

Plus if there are more, there are probably more spare parts, more dealers etc

We had the 3cyl 1.5L Opti in 90hp guise. The 115 is the same engine block, couldn't fault it. Great fuel economy, fantastic torque and throttle response plus very quiet. (We now have the 175hp. Its a 2.5v6 which is just loud. )

I personally think that up to 115hp ish on 6m or less boat, the difference in economy is negligible in monetary terms between a modern 2stroke and 4 stroke.

I'd take a 115hp opti 2stroke over a comparable 4st any day. Unless all you are going to do is trawl along and fish.

[bedajim]

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

115 I had a ski behind a RIB with one on a couple of weeks ago and its torque was incredible.

Would need to be

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by bedajim

Would need to be

Hark at the skinny tw@t.

[Downhilldai]

Originally Posted by bedajim

Would need to be

That took a while....

[bedajim]

Originally Posted by Mollers

Hark at the skinny tw@t.

Why thank you that's almost a compliment

By the way Etec if you can get a deal

[mark_j]

Opti gets my vote, I have a 115 on the back of my RC5.85, superb motor!

[HUMBER P4VWL]

Originally Posted by mark_j

Opti gets my vote, I have a 115 on the back of my RC5.85, superb motor!

Great set up! Good balance of size for seaworthiness and practicality towing/economy.

Did you ever sell it? What do you think it's worth?

[joakimhansson]

Suzuki and Yamaha before Mercury F 115 4-stroke.

Honda 115 is up to 135 hp they say...

Opti or etec 115 is fun.

[Boats&Outboards]

Originally Posted by joakimhansson

Suzuki and Yamaha before Mercury F 115 4-stroke.

Honda 115 is up to 135 hp they say...

Opti or etec 115 is fun.

Exactly my point!

Peter ~ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ askboatsandoutboards4sale@sky.com ~ 07930 421007

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by HUMBER P4VWL

Great set up!

You reckon? A 585 is fine with a 140 Suzook, with a 115 it must be verging on the pedestrian.