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25 April 2012, 17:11
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Member
Country: Luxembourg
Make: Karnic 2260
Length: 7m +
Engine: mercruises 1.7 120 d
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
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Mercruiser 120 1.7DTI won't start
My engine won't start.
It's on my trailer and it was running fine when parked 6 months ago.
This week I have changed the timing belt. And today I have tried to start it but it won't.
I was afraid that I may have done something wrong with the timing belt, so today I've checked the timing and it seems that is OK.
I've checked if the stopped solenoïd has 12v, it hasn't. Very strange while it was working fine before the storage. So I have put a new wire with 12v on the stop solenoïd, but it still won't start.
I've primed the fuel system, no luck.
When I loosen the injectors there is no diesel when I start. So maybe my stop solenoïd is faulty, but it is difficult to remove.
The strange thing is that the engine doesn't fire up, even when I put easystart into the intake. Even without diesel it should fire up for a few seconds I think..
Anybody has any ideas what I should do now?
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25 April 2012, 17:54
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Aquaholic
Make: Ribeye
Length: 7m +
Engine: 250 V8
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 1,323
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Checked the Kill Cord?
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25 April 2012, 17:55
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Member
Country: Luxembourg
Make: Karnic 2260
Length: 7m +
Engine: mercruises 1.7 120 d
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
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I have put 12v directly on the fuel injection pump, so I have bypassed the kill cord.
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25 April 2012, 17:59
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: A large rock
Boat name: La Frette
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 Suzzy
Join Date: May 2004
Posts: 2,893
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Don't know much about these engines, but obvious things would be:- - Check you've got fuel
- All fuel line valves open
- Out of gear
- Connections of neutral safety switches all ok (gearbox and throttle lever)
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25 April 2012, 18:14
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Member
Country: Luxembourg
Make: Karnic 2260
Length: 7m +
Engine: mercruises 1.7 120 d
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
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there is fuel to the FIP, but there's no fuel at the injectors.
but also does not start on easystart.
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25 April 2012, 18:38
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: portsmouth
Boat name: my 2 boys
Make: Coastline 10m 12pax
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2x 300 Suzuki
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 93
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I have a workshop manual advertised on here, if your interested?? regards Mark
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25 April 2012, 18:41
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Member
Country: Luxembourg
Make: Karnic 2260
Length: 7m +
Engine: mercruises 1.7 120 d
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
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Hi, thanks, but I already have the manual..
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26 April 2012, 18:50
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Country: UK - England
Town: Over there ---->
Length: 3m +
Join Date: Jan 2007
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Step away from the easystart! There's clearly something not right, but firing easystart into it is likely to create more damage.
Figure out what the problem is rather than firing something into it that over time will destroy it.
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26 April 2012, 20:47
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Member
Country: Luxembourg
Make: Karnic 2260
Length: 7m +
Engine: mercruises 1.7 120 d
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
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yeah, I know, but it is a way to find out which way to search. Today I have done a compression test, all 4 cilinders equal, so that is positive. Checked timing for the third time, and it is definately spot on. So tried another squirt of easystart, and the engine fired up for a few second and was running smooth. So now I'm sure it's only a fuelling problem. So tomorrow I will try to get the stop solenoid off.
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26 April 2012, 21:01
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
MMSI: 235055163
Join Date: Jul 2005
Posts: 13,069
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Originally Posted by stobbie
yeah, I know, but it is a way to find out which way to search. Today I have done a compression test, all 4 cilinders equal, so that is positive. Checked timing for the third time, and it is definately spot on. So tried another squirt of easystart, and the engine fired up for a few second and was running smooth. So now I'm sure it's only a fuelling problem. So tomorrow I will try to get the stop solenoid off.
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You already know it's a fuelling problem-there's no fuel at the injectors. Put the easy start in the bin before you wreck your rings.
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27 April 2012, 07:11
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: swanwick/hamble
Boat name: stormchaser
Make: custom rib
Length: 8m +
Engine: inboard/diesel
Join Date: Aug 2007
Posts: 3,848
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Run it up on a clean gallon can of fuel and work your way back to the tank. Sounds like a bug in your fuel
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27 April 2012, 15:12
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Member
Country: Luxembourg
Make: Karnic 2260
Length: 7m +
Engine: mercruises 1.7 120 d
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 8
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compression was only 120 psi per cilinder. I've started the engine for a long time today without the glowplugs so no compression, and now there is some diesel on injector 2 and 3. Engine still will not start. I have now started too long and my starter is dead...
I think I will have to give up...
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29 April 2012, 19:28
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
MMSI: 235038046
Join Date: Jun 2002
Posts: 3,804
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Quote:
Originally Posted by stobbie
compression was only 120 psi per cilinder. I've started the engine for a long time today without the glowplugs so no compression, and now there is some diesel on injector 2 and 3. Engine still will not start. I have now started too long and my starter is dead...
I think I will have to give up...
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Have you burnt out the starter? Go to a car breaker and get a starter motor off an Astra or cavalier 1.7 diesel. It should bolt straight on and It will do until you get yours repaired. I'm not sure what they do to marinise them.
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