Mercury Phantom Black

[Waterman]

Going to respray and decal my 200 Optimax cowling.


Anyone know the paint code (RAL etc) for Mercury Phantom Black...?

[Fender]

Originally Posted by Waterman

Going to respray and decal my 200 Optimax cowling.


Anyone know the paint code (RAL etc) for Mercury Phantom Black...?

If you have no luck here try boatmad

[ian parr]

Try ed. nugent on here. Top man


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[paintman]

After much searching it appears Mercury Phantom Black is by Ditzler PPG DU9300.
This link: is it me or is quicksilver phatom black useless Page: 1 - iboats Boating Forums | 552493

I have access to PPG online paint formulations & there are other cross-references to other manufacturer's codes on other websites but all that comes up is 'No formulation found'.
If anyone DOES have a paint code they've actually used to buy paint from a motor factors I'd be much obliged!
That said, I sprayed the lower half of the skeg on mine with 'normal' black aerosol & didn't notice any difference so perhaps a BS/RAL or other standard Jet Black would work.

[Fender]

Originally Posted by paintman

After much searching it appears Mercury Phantom Black is by Ditzler PPG DU9300.
This link: is it me or is quicksilver phatom black useless Page: 1 - iboats Boating Forums | 552493

I have access to PPG online paint formulations & there are other cross-references to other manufacturer's codes on other websites but all that comes up is 'No formulation found'.
If anyone DOES have a paint code they've actually used to buy paint from a motor factors I'd be much obliged!
That said, I sprayed the lower half of the skeg on mine with 'normal' black aerosol & didn't notice any difference so perhaps a BS/RAL or other standard Jet Black would work.

get a body shop to use a spectrometer on the original paint ( 'cut' with polish the sample area to bring up the colour ) and the machine gives you a colour / code

[paintman]

Yes, that would be the next step to try & get a match - but it doesn't always work.
It will give you either a formulation or a vehicle colour name & code of what it considers to be a match.
I SMART repair professionally & have had a few that I've finished up walking away from as the spectrophotometer & even an eye match by a couple of very good mixers I use hasn't got it right & the only answer would be a whole side respray which is bodyshop & booth territory. Learnt a long time ago to get the colour right BEFORE applying the wet&dry
Just irritating that I can find a code but not a formulation! I've emailed PPG so I'll see what they say.

[beerbelly]

just do it panther black if your doing the whole cowl who's going to know, get a litre of the shelf in prospray base coat from john Davey paints for less than £20. or lr java has a nice blue pearl hint to it once its decaled up nobody will notice

[paintman]

Mercury Phantom is a solid & the other two are metallic/pearlescent so it'll be a bit noticable - although of the two Java would get my vote as the pearls in it are in tiny quantities so a lot more subtle that Panther.

[beerbelly]

well if mercury phantom is solid just do it off the shelf jet black no body will ever notice ,90% of normal people don't see what we do

[paintman]

True.

[Waterman]

Thanks for the replies.
Mercury are keeping that code/formulation close to their chest....
Will be doing the whole cowl so jet black might be the best option.

[Xk59D]

take a part of the cowl/plastic anything into a good paint shop and they will mix you up an exact rattle can match for about 20 quid....good enough for a galloping horse anyway

[uncle al]

all the merc paint codes were put on a bulletin years ago, and the bulletin will be on every dealers computer when they load the EPC, it is/was automatically loaded on to the hard drive. As Im retired I cannot get the code for you.

[Jeff]

Sounds like another one for Andre ;-)

[Jeff]

Or does this help ? Ditzler Paints
PAINT CODES AND PART NUMBERS | Service Bulletin | Crowley Marine

Mercury Service Bulletin 97-15
Phantom Black Paint Codes:
(Ditzler Paints):
DU9300 (Top Coat);
DAU-2 (Catalyst);
DP 90 (Black Primer);
DP401 (Catalyst for Primer)
These are the constituents:
DMC921 JET BLACK 377.9 377.9
DMC924 BLUE 472.2 94.3
DMS900 WHITE 475.9 3.7

DMC Color Chart

[paintman]

Had a reply.
Ditzler is American, not available in the UK so can't be mixed using the above formula. (The Jet black should be OK but in most mixing systems there are several blues & whites & you'd need to know which one).
Would be necessary to have the paint matched to the part either by an eyematch or spectrophotometer.
Wonder what Henry Ford - 'any colour you like as long as it's black - would make of it

[skip3662]

Did you find the code or did you use another colour ? I about to start the process, any advice is appreciated