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12 April 2010, 23:34
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Originally Posted by Stoo
Why is that? I've heard this for years, but never with an explanation.
I have used a wee shot of ether to get my snowblower and lawnmowers going at the beginning of each season for ever. One is a 4 stoke and the other a 2. Neither one seems to have suffered from it.
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Explanation I have heard is that:
(1) ether (easystart) has no lube.
(2) ether "degreases" very well, so removes any residual oil from the cylinder.
I guess if it fires into action and draws in oil/fuel very quickly it will probably be ok. But if it struggles then you go from a minor spark/fuel issue to a seized/scored engine quite quickly.
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12 April 2010, 23:58
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Polwart
Explanation I have heard is that:
(1) ether (easystart) has no lube.
(2) ether "degreases" very well, so removes any residual oil from the cylinder.
I guess if it fires into action and draws in oil/fuel very quickly it will probably be ok. But if it struggles then you go from a minor spark/fuel issue to a seized/scored engine quite quickly.
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(3)Ether doesn't burn steadily like petrol.It explodes and overloads the engine, breaking rings if you're really unlucky.
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22 April 2010, 04:09
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Thanks. Now I have an excuse to avoid cutting grass and blowing snow... Can't get the bloody machines to run!
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22 April 2010, 09:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
(3)Ether doesn't burn steadily like petrol.It explodes and overloads the engine, breaking rings if you're really unlucky.
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Or goes POP in the crank case and turns your reed valves inside out
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22 April 2010, 16:30
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Originally Posted by Stoo
Thanks. Now I have an excuse to avoid cutting grass and blowing snow... Can't get the bloody machines to run!
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Didn't know grass grew under the snow.
jky
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16 May 2010, 15:10
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The choke cable needed renewed! With that work and the standard service at Ferry Marine, Port Edgar the bill came to an eye watering £451.
Anyone wanting to buy a 6m, Tornado RIB with 90hp mariner otboard???
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16 May 2010, 17:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Nos4r2
(3)Ether doesn't burn steadily like petrol.It explodes and overloads the engine, breaking rings if you're really unlucky.
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Yes I hate the stuff too its automotive dynamite .. think I mentioned before I caught an ageing family member using it on one of my old vintage tractors man I was not happy .. took the fekin can out side and shot it booom
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Originally Posted by Stevie J
The choke cable needed renewed! With that work and the standard service at Ferry Marine, Port Edgar the bill came to an eye watering £451
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Ouchy ! still .. least its sorted
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16 May 2010, 19:02
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie J
The choke cable needed renewed! With that work and the standard service at Ferry Marine, Port Edgar the bill came to an eye watering £451.
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youch
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16 May 2010, 23:16
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451 quid. Ouch... And to think of that you possibly could have diagnosed that yourself, using a 3£ can of Ether..
Ooops better run or duck for cover now... ;-)
No seriously, good for you its running at least..
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19 May 2010, 02:36
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Quote:
Originally Posted by jyasaki
Didn't know grass grew under the snow.
jky
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This winter was so mild that there was weeks I could have cut the grass, then shovelled a week later, soon to be repeated!
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