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28 May 2012, 17:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
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New Etec 115 question
We have just bought a couple of brand new ETC 115,s. Both are leaking exhaust gas around the joining faces on the leg, where the extension section is added to make them the correct length for the RIBs. Being white, the black smuts really show up. Is this normal?
One of them is also setting off the overheating alarm within a couple of minutes running. The outfit that service the engines have been out and have replaced 2 temperature sender units, but the problem persists. Is this a known issue with them?
Both engines have less than 30 hours on them.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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28 May 2012, 18:59
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Country: UK - England
Town: Truro-Cornwall & Brazil
Boat name: Bananas in Blue
Make: Humber Destroyer 5.5
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-Tec 115
Join Date: Jun 2007
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Had my 115 for 4 years now and never had any overheating issues with it. Goes up to about 87° when chugging just off the plane but drops back to just under 60° once the thermostat bypass valve opens as the revs build.
Mine is blue and an XL shaft but I have never noticed any soot on the leg. I have a feeling the earlier 115s like mine dont use an extension piece to get the extra length but have a totally differeny leg so can't help you much there I'm afraid.
Mark.
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29 May 2012, 08:46
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Country: UK - England
Town: Blackpool
Boat name: Magic II
Make: Tohatsu 6.1
Length: 6m +
Engine: Evinrude 115 E-tec
MMSI: 235050189
Join Date: Oct 2006
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Had mine nearly 6 years never had any gas leaks or over temperature issues. But as Mark says the early ones had no extention pieces. I did notice at the boat show a couple of years ago that the castings had changed completly from mine.
Keith
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29 May 2012, 18:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Rokraider
We have just bought a couple of brand new ETC 115,s. Both are leaking exhaust gas around the joining faces on the leg, where the extension section is added to make them the correct length for the RIBs. Being white, the black smuts really show up. Is this normal?
One of them is also setting off the overheating alarm within a couple of minutes running. The outfit that service the engines have been out and have replaced 2 temperature sender units, but the problem persists. Is this a known issue with them?
Both engines have less than 30 hours on them.
Any advice would be appreciated.
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29 May 2012, 19:50
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
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I will take some pics this weekend.
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29 May 2012, 21:04
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Country: UK - England
Town: Looe
Make: Delta
Length: 4m +
Engine: Mercury
Join Date: Apr 2004
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Im not taking the P*ss or anything, but have you gone back to the dealer? its brand new they should be bending over backwards to help you out? What do they say about it?
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29 May 2012, 23:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
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The company that is servicing the club RIBs is apparently an E Tec authorised dealer / service outlet. I will find out more next weekend. I was curious whether anybody else had heard of either of the issues I have mentioned.
We have around 8 or 9 other E tec 50's which have proven to be very reliable, powerful and frugal, which is why we stayed with the them for the new bigger RIBs, albeit the larger size.
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03 June 2012, 16:25
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
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The 115 is one of the best engines in the range, and IMO the best 115 on the market. If they are rigged correctly then they are usually reliable and simple to maintain.
The black soot thing is a bit odd though. Sometimes in the first few hours of running due to the extra oil used there can be some black soot around the water outlet and the inside of the prop hub, however from your description the soot is coming from the an extension piece that I am not familiar with.
It sounds odd to me.
Speak to Rod Bower at Qinquari, he used to be BRP's lead tech in the UK and knows his stuff.
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18 June 2012, 17:00
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: Fugly & Rokraider 1
Make: Pac 22 & Porter 6.5
Length: 6m +
Engine: Ford 250 & jet,DT140
Join Date: Jun 2008
Posts: 681
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We seem to have resolved the overheating issue. It turned out to be a faulty engine wiring harness. They have replaced the entire harness and so far all ok.
Forgot to take pics of the soot, will try and remember next weekend.
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