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20 November 2013, 12:18
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Yarhoo
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New prop design
Thoughts?? Apart from looks expensive??
http://youtu.be/shcFEObR56I
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20 November 2013, 14:44
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Boat name: Hysucat
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Seems to be marketing without independent testing.
Given we have been making props for quite some time now Id be surprised if anyone can come up with somthing new/better.
New and better marketing, sure. New and better prop design..............not convinced yet.
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20 November 2013, 15:15
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sussex
Make: RIBTEC 655
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I managed 40 seconds before I lost the will to live
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20 November 2013, 15:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thomas
I managed 40 seconds before I lost the will to live
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About 20 more than me!
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20 November 2013, 16:31
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Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
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What the hell is it made of? 1/3rd the weight of Ali? Is that just because there's almost no metal and its mostly a plastic hub?
I had to laugh about the emphasis on graphics and colors...
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20 November 2013, 19:08
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Kind of an interesting ad. 1/3 the wt. of aluminum, yet an alloy - some titanium alloy, perhaps? If that were the case, you wouldn't need the advanced corrosion protection they tout. Other than that, it appears to be a lot of solutions for problems that don't exist.
Jack; if you look at phones, the biggest advertising draw after the brand name is the availability of colors.
jky
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20 November 2013, 19:24
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Town: Cambs
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One monitor ding and it will be trash! I can't imagine mending and balancing that very easily
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20 November 2013, 20:12
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Town: California
Make: Avon 5.4m Searider
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Plastic Sleeve - "Reduces injury to humans and aquatic life"
I have a feeling, even at idle, that's going to hurt.
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20 November 2013, 21:50
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Town: Seattle
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ncp
Plastic Sleeve - "Reduces injury to humans and aquatic life"
I have a feeling, even at idle, that's going to hurt.
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LMAO so true
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20 November 2013, 23:09
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
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The redirection of the flow into the hub MIGHT make a few % improvement.
But based on the ad which shows only a computer generated graphic I wonder if any have been manufactured yet?
Would be net resting to see a test (a proper comparative test)
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21 November 2013, 04:32
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
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Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
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Indeed.
I would also offer the high level thought (re. the safety aspect) that any spinning edge doing 800+ rpm, no matter how blunt - in a metal (or polymer) witgh HP dtiving it vs human flesh scenario - the prop is going to win every time. (How else does a strimmer work?)
Whether it improves fuel efficiency or not I will be very interested to see. Bring on the back - to back testing.....
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21 November 2013, 08:17
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Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
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Would like to see some back to back testing of these things - can't see how you can get that much more performance though ...........
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21 November 2013, 09:24
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Town: portsmouth
Boat name: Hullabaloo
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Right, I've got my drill and a tin of red paint - off to transform my standard prop! I guess if I drill enough holes it will be 30% lighter when I've finished
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21 November 2013, 10:07
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Make: Ribcraft
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dry Run
Right, I've got my drill and a tin of red paint - off to transform my standard prop! I guess if I drill enough holes it will be 30% lighter when I've finished
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Reminds me of a trailer build thread:P
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21 November 2013, 11:54
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Town: Southampton
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dry Run
Right, I've got my drill and a tin of red paint - off to transform my standard prop! I guess if I drill enough holes it will be 30% lighter when I've finished
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Do you know the correct way to drill the holes?
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21 November 2013, 15:46
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Town: portsmouth
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Engine: 225 Optimax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Searider
Do you know the correct way to drill the holes?
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Err..........start on one side and come out the other side.............unless anyone has better advice???
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21 November 2013, 18:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dry Run
Right, I've got my drill and a tin of red paint - off to transform my standard prop! I guess if I drill enough holes it will be 30% lighter when I've finished
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I drilled some holes in a rather heavy Vance and Hines exhaust pipe on a racing bike once - thinking the lighter weight might me an advantage in a race. The bike unsurprisingly went a lot slower - but with a magnificent backfire on odd occasions - scared the s**t out of any opposition close by however!
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21 November 2013, 19:11
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Country: UK - England
Town: Crewe
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Make: humber & searider
Length: 9m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dry Run
Err..........start on one side and come out the other side.............unless anyone has better advice???
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sure you doing it back to front now
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21 November 2013, 20:41
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Country: USA
Town: Seattle
Boat name: Water Dog
Make: Polaris
Length: 4m +
Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: Apr 2007
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It was pretty interesting. I am pretty damn skeptical of how they are going to address corrosion of magnesium in salt water. Magnesium is currently used for anodes on some freshwater boats since its far more reactive than zinc and thus protects Ali parts (like outdrives...) far better.
Not sure if a ceramic coated magnesium prop will actually work long term - especially in salt water.
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