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Old 13 September 2007, 06:11   #1
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New / Spare Prop

Running 21" Laser on my 150 opti and 6.5M Solent. Want to up my WOT speed - yes, I'm a sad bugger. Don't pull anything. This is about the need for speed. No real need to be fast out of the hole - wife tells me off when I do anyway. But when near WOT she is hanging on and the Opti 'deafens' me!!!!

Currently about 45/46K on gentle chop with 1/4 tank and 2 adults. Ideas please?

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Bruce, you need to know what the max revs are at your current top speed, but I recon your pretty close to the biggest prop you can turn now.

If you want to go faster you need a bigger engine or loose some weight, out of the boat that is.

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If you want to go faster you need a bigger engine or loose some weight, out of the boat that is.

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Loose the Wife and run on fumes, take that horse shoe life ring off the back (should decrease your drag a little) and off you go

Be sure to let us all know how you get on.
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Old 14 September 2007, 14:28   #4
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I need to lose weight personally anyway
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..... But when near WOT she is hanging on and the Opti 'deafens' me!!!!
Surely, you don't expect more speed and less noise?

If you want less 'deafening noise', better get rid of the Opti.
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I find the 'prop advice' on this site so hit and miss that it's close to no use at all. I have the same engine and the same prop as yourself on a 6.5m Vipermax. I get 40knots and that's the lot, I'm surprised that you're getting 6knts more. No way could I run a 23P prop, it would kill the boat. I'd struggle to get on the plane.
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I find the 'prop advice' on this site so hit and miss that it's close to no use at all. I have the same engine and the same prop as yourself on a 6.5m Vipermax. I get 40knots and that's the lot, I'm surprised that you're getting 6knts more. No way could I run a 23P prop, it would kill the boat. I'd struggle to get on the plane.
They're completely different shapes of Hull, the 6.5m Solent in nearer 7m in length BTW, but has a much narrower beam than the Vipermax. That'll mean the Solent will go faster, but have a much harder ride. It's probably a lighter RIB as well.

I'm hoping my 6.2 Vipermax will top out at 45 knotts with a 150 on. The beam is narrower than the 6.5's so hope it'll be a faster hull.
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[QUOTE=Hightower;218754] They're completely different shapes of Hull, the 6.5m Solent in nearer 7m in length BTW, but has a much narrower beam than the Vipermax. That'll mean the Solent will go faster, but have a much harder ride. It's probably a lighter RIB as well.

If it's nearly 7m and doing 45+knts with a 150 Opti on the back it must be made of tissue paper.
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They're completely different shapes of Hull, the 6.5m Solent in nearer 7m in length BTW, but has a much narrower beam than the Vipermax. That'll mean the Solent will go faster, but have a much harder ride. It's probably a lighter RIB as well.

If it's nearly 7m and doing 45+knts with a 150 Opti on the back it must be made of tissue paper.
I can't quote on speeds for the Solent, but the hull design is based on a Tohatsu hull I believe. This could be opening a can of worms here

It is quite an efficent design and have been in one at full chat with an HO 200 Etec on the back. Yes, it did hurt
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Old 15 September 2007, 13:47   #10
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OK. Can confirm that with two blokes (13.5st and 12st) and one quarter of a tank 40 litres with our six pods, anchor, safety kit etc we averaged (I have numbers in front of me) 45.78k according to the GPS on a two way run WOT from approx the Lymington Sailing Platform to Cowes Roads in a light chop (F2/3 - sea condition mild). No it doesn't hurt if you keep a hand on the trim and trim down for the rougher bits. This is with a clean bottom - polished myself (no, the boat, you idjut!) and the engine nice and warm. Temperature about 68c, sunny.

Kev from Solent got it up to 49.1 a while back with the two of us on board with a about a 3 knot current going with us according to the electronic chart - so that is 46k.

I like the noise!!
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but the hull design is based on a Tohatsu hull I believe.
A pal of mine was recently at the Tohatsu HQ (potting shed) where he remarked to one of the personel that the hull of their rib looked eficient, he was told that it should be, as it's a Phantom.
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A pal of mine was recently at the Tohatsu HQ (potting shed) where he remarked to one of the personel that the hull of their rib looked eficient, he was told that it should be, as it's a Phantom.
yes, a lemming theft, then given to solent (with a minor alteration to the spray rail tips as a 'smoke screen')

What a tangled web.................
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yes, a lemming theft, then given to solent (with a minor alteration to the spray rail tips as a 'smoke screen')

What a tangled web.................

Look what I've started now

However the quote in your post wasn't posted by me
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OK. Can confirm that with two blokes (13.5st and 12st) and one quarter of a tank 40 litres with our six pods, anchor, safety kit etc we averaged (I have numbers in front of me) 45.78k according to the GPS on a two way run WOT from approx the Lymington Sailing Platform to Cowes Roads in a light chop (F2/3 - sea condition mild). No it doesn't hurt if you keep a hand on the trim and trim down for the rougher bits. This is with a clean bottom - polished myself (no, the boat, you idjut!) and the engine nice and warm. Temperature about 68c, sunny.

Kev from Solent got it up to 49.1 a while back with the two of us on board with a about a 3 knot current going with us according to the electronic chart - so that is 46k.

I like the noise!!
What rpm are you pulling at 46kt SOW?
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Actually I don't know. I am an old blind bastard and find the smart craft guages a bugger to read. I will check. I have the GPS speed fed to a secondary small screen on the console in front of the navigators seat, above the big plotter.

I will check and report back

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and... just because of its ancestry which I knew nothing of at the time of order / purchase... should I go to the police and surrender the boat since I suspect it has stolen IP
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and... just because of its ancestry which I knew nothing of at the time of order / purchase... should I go to the police and surrender the boat since I suspect it has stolen IP
Yes, you really should, if you have anything of a conscience.
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and... just because of its ancestry which I knew nothing of at the time of order / purchase... should I go to the police and surrender the boat since I suspect it has stolen IP
No just go to the Church...... and stand a round for the Solent Ribnet members, this should resolve you of any blame. Good hull though

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Actually I don't know. I am an old blind bastard and find the smart craft guages a bugger to read. I will check. I have the GPS speed fed to a secondary small screen on the console in front of the navigators seat, above the big plotter.

I will check and report back

SOW?
I too am an old blind bastard and find the smart craft guages a pain. Am considering a chart plotter with smart craft ability (Navman) and I'd be interested in the setup you have. I see that Mercury do a SC5000 system £1000 I find the standard guages are just readable on the pontoon let alone on the water (there position isn't ideal to be fair)

Any picture or info would be really useful.
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