Non responsive steering

[jambo]

Originally Posted by gpsguru

Its not ATM, its a hydraulic fluid ...............


here is a quote from the quicksilver blurb ............


"Quicksilver Power Trim and Steering Fluid is designed as a universal hydraulic fluid designed to mix with all hydraulic fluids, to protect seals and hoses, and prevent foaming, oxidation and corrosion.

Designed to mix with all hydraulic fluids, it protect seals and hoses. Quicksilver Power Trim and Steering Fluid also prevents foaming, oxidation and corrosion. For use in power trim and steering systems. It is also suitable for high temperature applications."


Go to your nearest hydraulic workshops (folk that fix hydraulic & agri plant etc) and they will sort you out with the right stuff ........ either 32 or 46 second oil ........... at your location I would use 32 sec oil .......... you only need less than a litre, it normally comes in 25L drums !

I think you missed my point [emoji106] But thanks for the information.

[simonl]

Originally Posted by jambo

Hi Dave I’ve never had any problem over the twelve years I’ve had the rib.

But you've certainly got an issue now though. I read a good article many years ago summarising how a father & daughter died as a result of steering that had started playing up going to hard lock & ejecting them from the boat. It stuck in my mind. I know very little about hydraulic steering, like yours mine has been flawless for years but made a note to self about heeding any tell tale signs off problems.
If I had to bodge it with an interim oil I'd use agricultural oil, which is designed for hydraulic systems. I would guess that ATF doesn't normally get compressed.

[beamishken]

Originally Posted by simonl

If I had to bodge it with an interim oil I'd use agricultural oil, which is designed for hydraulic systems. I would guess that ATF doesn't normally get compressed.

Atf is a hydraulic oil, automatic gearboxes are hydraulically controled,power steering systems which also use atf are simple hydraulic circuits.
Atf is probably way over speck for a basic bog standard hydraulic steering system but it would 100% work

[gpsguru]

Originally Posted by beamishken

Atf is a hydraulic oil, automatic gearboxes are hydraulically controled,power steering systems which also use atf are simple hydraulic circuits.
Atf is probably way over speck for a basic bog standard hydraulic steering system but it would 100% work

True, but some of the higher spec ATF's (ATF4) dont mix too well with ordinary hydraulic oil .......... but, I cant remember the exact reason why

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by gpsguru

True, but some of the higher spec ATF's (ATF4) dont mix too well with ordinary hydraulic oil .......... but, I cant remember the exact reason why

Colour! It'll end up pink which would be wrong[emoji6]

[jambo]

Not to worry guys supply on the way as we speak. So top up tomorrow and hopefully we are good to go. I’ve checked the ram and seals and everything is dry. But tomorrow will tell [emoji106]
Thanks for all your comments although there does seem to be distinct camps those that say don’t mix and those that say mix. Anyway I’ve stayed true to marine standards. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji56]

[Pikey Dave]

Originally Posted by jambo

Not to worry guys supply on the way as we speak. So top up tomorrow and hopefully we are good to go. I’ve checked the ram and seals and everything is dry. But tomorrow will tell [emoji106]
Thanks for all your comments although there does seem to be distinct camps those that say don’t mix and those that say mix. Anyway I’ve stayed true to marine standards. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji56]

Here you go Billy, straight from the manual (assuming you have a Seastar system)

[jambo]

Originally Posted by Pikey Dave

Here you go Billy, straight from the manual (assuming you have a Seastar system)
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Thanks Dave appreciate your time. As I was not in a hurry I waited for the right stuff had I been in the back of beyond then I would have topped up with atf. Again many thanks mate [emoji106]🥃

[Orwell boy]

Go to your nearest hydraulic workshops (folk that fix hydraulic & agri plant etc) and they will sort you out with the right stuff ........ either 32 or 46 second oil ........... at your location I would use 32 sec oil .......... you only need less than a litre, it normally comes in 25L drums ![/QUOTE]

Just as a tiny correction for future reference the 32 or 46 refers to centistokes which is a measure used of the viscosity of the oil 32 being thinner than 46 hence choosing a thinner oil in a colder enviroment ,when a sec is refered to this is usually ref to the ignition time ie 28 sec kerosene

[Xk59D]

Originally Posted by jambo

Not to worry guys supply on the way as we speak. So top up tomorrow and hopefully we are good to go. I’ve checked the ram and seals and everything is dry. But tomorrow will tell [emoji106]
Thanks for all your comments although there does seem to be distinct camps those that say don’t mix and those that say mix. Anyway I’ve stayed true to marine standards. [emoji106][emoji106][emoji56]

If you are stuck again I'm pretty sure clyde outboards keep it in stock.

[jambo]

Originally Posted by Xk59D

If you are stuck again I'm pretty sure clyde outboards keep it in stock.

Jesus Paul never thought of Cammy. Idiot that I am!!

[gpsguru]

Originally Posted by Orwell boy

Just as a tiny correction for future reference the 32 or 46 refers to centistokes which is a measure used of the viscosity of the oil 32 being thinner than 46 hence choosing a thinner oil in a colder enviroment ,when a sec is refered to this is usually ref to the ignition time ie 28 sec kerosene

True, so very true ............ when I was writing the above I can remember I was thinking about heating oil at the time !

[jambo]

Thought I would bring this up to date. Filled up with Quicksilver fluid and adopted the old car method of filling and turning to opposite lock until no further space. Left open for two days to allow any further air to surface. When back after three days no movement of fluid still full. Replaced cap and set course for the Craig pics on another thread. Steering fine. On return we chaecked bilges ram pipes and behind steering wheel not a trace of oil. We both remarked than we had never topped up in thirteen years so maybe oil does evaporate[emoji106]