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01 May 2007, 22:45
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Country: UK - England
Town: Winchester
Boat name: Cool Running
Make: solent
Length: 6m +
Engine: Opti 150
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Thanks for all the above. Obviously many different views but upshot appears to be good reliable and exhilerating engine, especially in combination with 6.5 although some consider older technology and noisy. Resale value of interest but not the key factor. Not sure I'm totally convinced by ETEC.
Im not going to even begin asking opinions on plotters !
Dave
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01 May 2007, 23:12
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Country: Ireland
Town: Galway
Boat name: rockhopper
Make: ballistic
Length: 6m +
Engine: petrol
MMSI: TBC
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I didnt read all the notes posted but if you look at the ribs for sale or JBT site, you will find a Ballistic with Opti 150 at at least 4 k less than Verado and a couple less than etec. Thus resale iffy.
They seem well tried and trusted. If you look back at this site a few of us tried to compare some of these. The Honda 150 sems very frugal and quiet in operation.
If two strokers suffer the same negative press that SUV`s are over here in Ireland by self opinionated ignorant assholes who sem to think we need nothing bigger than a 1 ltr car to drive 7 pax with air con, then you will end up using it as an anchour...
I am sure it would be fine if you write it off (value) over a few short years.
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02 May 2007, 00:02
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Originally Posted by Aidan
I didnt read all the notes posted but if you look at the ribs for sale or JBT site, you will find a Ballistic with Opti 150 at at least 4 k less than Verado and a couple less than etec. Thus resale iffy.
They seem well tried and trusted. If you look back at this site a few of us tried to compare some of these. The Honda 150 sems very frugal and quiet in operation.
If two strokers suffer the same negative press that SUV`s are over here in Ireland by self opinionated ignorant assholes who sem to think we need nothing bigger than a 1 ltr car to drive 7 pax with air con, then you will end up using it as an anchour...
I am sure it would be fine if you write it off (value) over a few short years.
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i expect the opti cost 4 k less than the verado to start with or something similar if he pulled a smart deal.
the etec could have been a good 1-2 k more as well
its all horses for courses really just like cars, some people are very happy to buy cars that devaluate like bricks
mine lost £47k in the first 2.5 years
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02 May 2007, 11:27
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bucks
Boat name: Blue & Ding Dong
Make: Ribeye,SR4 & Bombard
Length: 6m +
Engine: 115,50 & 15Hp Yams
Join Date: Feb 2004
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I loved my 150 opti, great acceleration, great noise (if a bit loud for on longer trips!), good on fuel too!
But when I was changing I was going to go for a Etec 200, but ended up with a 220 v6 petrol inboard, but that's anther story!
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02 May 2007, 13:00
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Sorry to ruin some of the swell constructed arguments on here, but I bought my e-tec because at the time it was the best deal I could get. That particular avenue is now closed by the way.
Certain well known oufits quoted me £2K more than I paid for my E-tec for an Opti!
Decisions like this are rarely clear cut, I think it is down to the individual and the timing. The important thing is to get out and enjoy it
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02 May 2007, 14:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 5m +
Engine: E-tec 300 G2
MMSI: TBC
Join Date: Dec 2006
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Etec Prices
Try Aquamarine in Chertsey for E-Tech prices they seem very reasonaable they have a 115 V4 Etec in there at the moment for £6,400 with SS prop (not rigged)
Chris
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02 May 2007, 18:34
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Country: UK - England
Town: Isle of Wight
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I have a Solent 6.5 with a 150 Opti. This RIB and engine combination is perfect! Enjoy.
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03 May 2007, 08:54
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
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So... Quick hijack here. Who sees an opti as old technology and who sees it as proven technology?
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Personally I see it as new technology I think the 150 Opti is an excellent choice for a 6.5m rib. The smaller block 150 Optis also seem to be reliable, we have seen Rogue Wave clock up 700 hours on one, so must be fairly robust.
Jimbo has one of the early models and that still flies on a 6.6m rib
They have also been around long enough for dealers to know what they are doing with them, rather than the much sucking of teeth when they first appeared on the market.
Is the E Tech significantly better ? well thats subjective, clearly Riva thinks they are, but then he sells them. Looked after and serviced regularly there is no reason why an Opti shouldn't give years of reliable service. Would I buy another second hand Opti, yes no problem.
Pete
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03 May 2007, 09:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Lymington Hampshire
Boat name: Hot Lemon
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
Engine: Yanmar diesel
MMSI: 235
Join Date: May 2002
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I agree with Pete7 I have a 150 opti which I have had a few problems with but now all sorted . After stripping it and cleaning and servicing all the injectors it really flies and it is not nearly as complicated as it first appears . Fuel consumption is OK and I love the noise and ooomph it has .Now I am a little more up to speed on them I would certainly buy another one even if it was showing signs of problems . I think I know enough about them now.
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03 May 2007, 22:35
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Well I've said it before... running a nice Verado now, makes me realise how good my 150 opti was , reliable, economical and a lot cheaper to buy than a verado............ hang on .... how many times do I have to repeat myself Buy the fooking opti so we can close the thread
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03 May 2007, 22:54
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
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Me well, I'm well impressed with my Suzi 140 DF. Totally silent on tickover, economical and accelerates great. Also not annoyingly loud on a cruise.
For me I will never willingly buy anything but a 4 stroke in the future.
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03 May 2007, 23:08
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
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03 May 2007, 23:11
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Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
Join Date: Jun 2003
Posts: 3,931
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But if I could afford a big 8m boat then I probably could afford a bloody great Verado to go on the back of it and then I might look down on poor serfs with their paltry little boats.
"Move over young man."
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03 May 2007, 23:13
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
Join Date: Jun 2003
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Seems like Bigmuz changed his post whilst I was typing that reply so I don't know what he means !!!
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04 May 2007, 18:59
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Newport IoW
Boat name: Amean/Pronto/Rumbo
Make: Solent Rib Princess
Length: 7m +
Engine: 200hp Etec 260x 2
MMSI: lots of them
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 1,861
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A bolt holding my alternator sheared today thing is this is located near the drive belt for the compressor so lucky not to damage that or worse still have it bust completely twice its happened now .
Still love Optis and am going to upgrade to a 175 hp at the end of season .
Now my Etec well it just made me alot as my son and I came back from Portsmouth today.
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04 May 2007, 20:43
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
Posts: 5,090
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Seems like Bigmuz changed his post whilst I was typing that reply so I don't know what he means !!!
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Sorry about that, a minor crisis erupted around me as I was trying to post a sensible point, I just deleted it in the absence of conjoined thinking trouble is, I cant remember what my point was now
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07 May 2007, 22:04
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#57
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Lymington
Boat name: Farfetched
Make: Solent Ribs
Length: 6m +
Engine: 150hp Suzuki
MMSI: 235021048
Join Date: Apr 2004
Posts: 963
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I love my 150 opti, and my Suzi 6hp 4 stroke works fine as an aux - and I have used it in real conditions to prove the point. Slow and steady away from danger. Cheaper than SeaStart....
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