Optimax 250 anyone?

Maximus · 31 October 2011, 16:35

Looking at options to power the new Rib,and been offered a Brilliant deal on a new 250 Opti,Pluss save me painting an E-tec! I'd be interested in seeing one in action on a 7m-ish if at all possible?
More than happy to pay fuel ect. Just mention I live in the ''South.''

Also info from owners would be of interest.Cheers.

Jizm · 31 October 2011, 21:26

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Pluss save me painting an E-tec!

Thought they came in white or dark blue?

Maximus · 31 October 2011, 21:44

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Originally Posted by Jizm

Thought they came in white or dark blue?

Not the Big un's, only White! H.O's come in Blue but they're not on my shopping list.
I see you have an Opti J,happy with it?

bedajim · 01 November 2011, 09:27

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Looking at options to power the new Rib,and been offered a Brilliant deal on a new 250 Opti,Pluss save me painting an E-tec! I'd be interested in seeing one in action on a 7m-ish if at all possible?
More than happy to pay fuel ect. Just mention I live in the ''South.''

Also info from owners would be of interest.Cheers.

Is that not over the max hp for a 6.8 ?

Jim

Jizm · 01 November 2011, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Maximus

I see you have an Opti J,happy with it?

I am now it's working!

I've always liked opti's but they are quite complex, lots of injectors, pumps, sensors etc I don't want to start a debate but as with most engines they are great while they are working but expensive to fix and can have niggly faults that are hard to cure. As for the Opti, I like the 3.0L V6 growl, I like the build quality and to work on it's not too bad access wise.

So all in all, yes I am happy with it.

Maximus · 01 November 2011, 09:54

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Originally Posted by bedajim

Is that not over the max hp for a 6.8 ?

Jim

The whole Rateing thing is a little subjective as you know Jim,the Hull can definately take it!.. and some.
Weight,(and of course Insurance) ARE important.Both of which are fine.

bedajim · 01 November 2011, 10:25

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Originally Posted by Maximus

The whole Rateing thing is a little subjective as you know Jim,the Hull can definately take it!.. and some.
Weight,(and of course Insurance) ARE important.Both of which are fine.

I don't understand if it's rated at 225 it's rated at 225, I assume you either need a letter from the builder stating more hp is ok to keep the insurance company happy or you take a risk ?

Chris · 01 November 2011, 15:58

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Not the Big un's, only White! H.O's come in Blue but they're not on my shopping list.
I see you have an Opti J,happy with it?

Are you sure.

PeterM · 01 November 2011, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Looking at options to power the new Rib,and been offered a Brilliant deal on a new 250 Opti,Pluss save me painting an E-tec! I'd be interested in seeing one in action on a 7m-ish if at all possible?
More than happy to pay fuel ect. Just mention I live in the ''South.''

Also info from owners would be of interest.Cheers.

Loved my 200.. I assume the 225 & 250 have the same V6 block but some other tweaks ?

A bit rough at low revs, but as soon as you open it up its an awesome noise. I had lots of people who were surprised at the pick up compared to modern 4strokes.

Old boats just out of the water so cant get you out on it (but it may be for sale next year anyway ....tempting to buy it back)

Get the opti - you'll love it. The new ones are by all accounts smoother at low revs as they changed the injection mapping etc.

Pete

Maximus · 01 November 2011, 19:36

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Originally Posted by Chris

Are you sure.

Hmmm You'd think a main dealer would know!.. Imports? Two certanties on Ribnet,if you want to know anything about Redbay's.. ask Wilk! And if you want to know anything about E-Tecs.. ask Chris!! I should have known better

Maximus · 01 November 2011, 19:38

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Originally Posted by PeterM

Loved my 200.. I assume the 225 & 250 have the same V6 block but some other tweaks ?

A bit rough at low revs, but as soon as you open it up its an awesome noise. I had lots of people who were surprised at the pick up compared to modern 4strokes.

Old boats just out of the water so cant get you out on it (but it may be for sale next year anyway ....tempting to buy it back)

Get the opti - you'll love it. The new ones are by all accounts smoother at low revs as they changed the injection mapping etc.

Pete

Thanks for that Peter.You could do alot worse than re-buy the old boat!

Maximus · 01 November 2011, 20:25

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Originally Posted by bedajim

I don't understand if it's rated at 225 it's rated at 225, I assume you either need a letter from the builder stating more hp is ok to keep the insurance company happy or you take a risk ?

Most Insurance companys DO undrestand. Mine have a maximum speed to length ratio, which for a sub 6m Rib is 50 knots.Not sure the figures for pluss 6m but even with a 250hp on the 6.8, I'm certain I won't be speeding in excess of 50knts! So the point moot.
The thing is, Hull rateings are flexable and open to change,the trouble is the manufacturer has to pay ( several grand) each time they up-rate any particular hull.Things move on,as is the nature of things,sometime it takes time for manufactures to catch up..ESPECIALY when it costs them.
You can see this clearly if you look at the older rateings for alot of hulls,they have steadley increased.The Ribcraft 585 I think was only rated at 100hp in the early years, now its 150!A 50% increase.
My old Rib Mr Jingles an R.C.545 was originaly rated at 90hp! A deeper hull and only 40cm shorter than a 585,when I wanted to up-rate the power with a 130e-tec I contacted them,and they explained the situation regarding rateings. When I re-powered, it Made a good boat into a great one!
So,in short if the Boat can take it,And the Insurance company can take it =NO problem!
Ofcourse we're talking keeping the insurance premiums standard,if you wanted to go even faster or Race ect you could,but it would cost you more,I hope this helps.

willk · 01 November 2011, 20:30

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Originally Posted by Maximus

Two certanties on Ribnet,if you want to know anything about Redbay's.. ask Wilk

Well now well now. I think you'll find that the 25" Etec 250 (non-HO) is available only in White. Over to you Chris

BTW, Maximouse, I think the Opti is the PERFECT match for a RIBKRAFT¡

Chris · 01 November 2011, 20:58

Don't buy the 25" then

willk · 01 November 2011, 21:14

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Don't buy the 25" then

You reckon 20" is OK for a Shallow Vee then Chris?

Chris · 01 November 2011, 21:31

Assume you mean is 20" OK for a Deep V....Depends on how deep the transom cut out is I guess. I ran a 20" on my Osprey and had about a 4" cut out. I prefer this as it kept the engine COG low down on the transom. Certainly worked for me.

willk · 01 November 2011, 21:33

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Assume you mean is 20" OK for a Deep V....

Was it not for a Ribcraft?

Chris · 01 November 2011, 21:35

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Was it not for a Ribcraft?

Sorry mate I'm completely lost

WTF are we talking about

Maximus · 01 November 2011, 21:42

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You reckon 20" is OK for a Shallow Vee then Chris?

Redbay's are'nt That Shallow are they?

willk · 01 November 2011, 21:46

I hate to disappoint Maximus, but it looks like neither Chris nor I have a balls notion what we're talking about...

i recummend a kwinquari