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28 January 2007, 13:42
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Country: UK - England
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Boat name: Hot Lemon
Make: Scorpion
Length: 8m +
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Optimax Air & Fuel Injectors
I have removed both air and fuel injectors from my 150 Opti due to No2 air injector fault being discovered and am planning to send them to these people( http://www.brucatosvs.com/fuel_injector.html ) for cleaning and recalibration .
Has anyone had any experience of them ?
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28 January 2007, 13:50
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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It is my understanding that they are Bosch items, but I may be wrong. I have been advised that these injectors do not thrive being exposed to the atmosphere. I'd wrap em in cling film perhaps?
I have never heard of the company by the way so can't help there.
Also have a good look at the cable firing the injector is it corroded. No 5 tends to get corroded quite badly
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28 January 2007, 14:06
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Town: Lymington Hampshire
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Make: Scorpion
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Thanks for that mine look like they have been under water for some time !
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28 January 2007, 14:49
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Southampton
Boat name: DynaMoHumm/ SRV/deja
Make: Avon8.4, 5.4 & 4.777
Length: 8m +
Engine: Cat3126 Yam 90 &70
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If they can get that rusty one looking good then book me in for a detox will ya!
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28 January 2007, 16:17
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Brucato have a pretty good name
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28 January 2007, 16:33
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
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Engine: Optimax 225
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Actually, I'll rephrase.
Brucato pretty much have the best name - but they're not magicians.
How come they're so bad?
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29 January 2007, 16:37
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Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
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Let us know how you get on
Have just looked at the site - looks like just the job for tired injectors.
Let us know how you get on as at the current exchange rate being able to get all injectors and air valves serviced for £200 ish looks like good value to me.
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29 January 2007, 17:31
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Sent them off this morning so will let you know progress . Anyone refitted injectors ? Anything I should know before I do it lube etc
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29 January 2007, 22:49
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Injectors
You may need to get a special tool to put direct injectors back in cos of ceramic seal would have expanded whilst injector out.
Paul
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15 February 2007, 09:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Lymington Hampshire
Boat name: Hot Lemon
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Progress
Just got this back from Brucato in US and I don't understand any of it !Anyone know what she is talking about , to me it sounds like the engine will be much better !
' have been working on your injectors today and wanted to let you know where I am at this point and tell you what I have found so far.
I have preflowed, cleaned and calibrated the Optimax Fuel Injectors. The set was in very bad condition at preflow. All six or the injectors were flooding badly at WOT and at Idle. Approximately 10% too much fuel being fired at all times. After cleaning and flow testing all 6 of the injectors have stabilized and 4 of them are excellent and balance perfectly together. Injectors #5 & #6 are flowing more fuel than the other 4 – though nowhere near like before servicing. The percent of imbalance between the high flowing and low flowing injectors is Very Good at Static Flow and WOT and Okay at idle. At idle the balance is 5.87 percent – this is due to the extra fuel that #6 is flowing. The 5.87% is out of tolerance for most types of injectors but we do not believe that this should cause you problems……so I believe the fuel injectors are fine to come back to you.
I have preflowed the Direct/Air injectors these guys are in rough condition. All six fired, but all six are also LEAN. I have just cleaned the first set of three and the second set of three are on the cleaner now. I will flow test them tomorrow and see how they come out. Just as an indication – at the lowest point at WOT they were about 17% lean and at idle about 20% lean.
So I’m here to say that you motor was likely not running too well. '
I await the report on the air injectors tonight so fingers crossed .
Any guidance welcome .
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15 February 2007, 09:28
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Boat name: Narcissus
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Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Having seen the original picture of them, I've very impressed.
Sounds like a new set of air injectors would be the way to go.
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15 February 2007, 15:40
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At $300 each I hope not!!!
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15 February 2007, 15:45
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Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
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Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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How come they got to be so bad?
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15 February 2007, 16:53
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Country: UK - England
Town: Lymington Hampshire
Boat name: Hot Lemon
Make: Scorpion
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Engine: Yanmar diesel
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A diet of petrol with added salt !
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24 February 2007, 12:42
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Country: UK - England
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Report
I have had the report back from BRUCATO and they have serviced the fuel injexctors and fitted new o rings they were 20% out at WOT and idle .
The Iar injectors are as we thought u/s and are now in the bin . New ones being fitted so I look forward to a refreshed engine !
I highly recommend Brucato who have been so helpfull and informative . They do upgraded ECU for some motors and can service all injectors . The cost of send all 12 to the US was about £50.00 so not too bad .
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09 April 2007, 23:45
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Update
At last I have the boat back in the water after the injector saga , we also found a cross threaded plug on No. 3 which required a helicoil insert . A brief run out today was great ,it felt like a new engine and we got 41.2 knots at WOT .This is the best ever since owning the boat. #
Many thanks to Mark Halliday for your help in starting etc .
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11 April 2007, 09:20
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Length: 6m +
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Glad to be of service.
Perhaps you should have attempted a trip to the Folly after all.
Also we like the dinner idea. Keep us informed if it goes ahead or if you want any help.
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11 April 2007, 10:37
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Folly
Mark
You are correct we managed to get 41.2 kn best ever so Folly should have been our destination .Very indifferent tuna roll at th club instead !Hordes of very pushy parents attending the RYA youth nationals !
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