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12 July 2010, 22:45
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Town: Darlington
Boat name: Dory
Make: Crompton Seasprint
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Optimax oil
Hi all, just a quickie, I am curious as to how much you are all paying for your oil?
Also what quantities do you/ can you buy it in?
Just wondering.
Thanks
lee
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12 July 2010, 23:02
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Rock Oil
Buy Rock Oil, loads cheaper and basically the same stuff except it does not say quicksilver on the side. We Only have one Opti and buy it by the 5G tin. I have contemplated buying the drum but it all takes up space
It does not matter what oil you buy, always avoid the one, tow, three litre containers and buy in bulk.
How much bulk will depend on your engine size and how much you use it
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12 July 2010, 23:17
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Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Doug Stormforce
Buy Rock Oil...
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DFI spec?
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12 July 2010, 23:24
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
DFI spec?
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Aye
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12 July 2010, 23:26
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Do you have a link to the product?
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12 July 2010, 23:37
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Boat name: Joy Ride
Make: Ribtec655CamelTrophy
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 optimax
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I thought rock oil Tcw3 was not suitable for Optimax engines?? Is there a DFI rock oil??
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12 July 2010, 23:53
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The Rock oil website gives a pdf brochure:
http://www.rockoil.co.uk/cm/pdf/rock...ure_marine.pdf
There are 2 products listed in the pdf which may masquerade as a DFI oil:
"Non TC-W3 2 Stroke
engine oil
Rock Oil offer two high specification 2 stroke lubricants for use when
a non TC-W3 two stroke oil is recommended.
Both PP2 (semi synthetic) and Synthesis 2 Injector (fully synthetic)
meet the very latest international 2 stroke specifications. They are
both ashless clean burning lubricants ideal for use in high powered 2
stroke applications.
They meet or exceed the following specifications:
JASO FC ISO-L-EGD API TC"
IIRC, the Optimax DFI oil doesn't have an API spec, so I'm not convinced these products would be suitable to use instead of the genuine article.
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12 July 2010, 23:55
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Waterman
I thought rock oil Tcw3 was not suitable for Optimax engines?? Is there a DFI rock oil??
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I'm a rock oil agent and it's not listed as DFi. Which one do you use Doug, MP3, PP2, Synthesis???
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13 July 2010, 09:02
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I know people using Rock oil mp3 in DFI engines for years with no problems.Also i recently spoke with one of the reps and the oil has passed some new spec especially for dfi engines,dont ask me what though
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13 July 2010, 09:21
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So how much is the rock oil compared to the DFI?
Is the saving worth it
Jim
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13 July 2010, 16:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200HP Optimax
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I sell it for £8 per litre or £30 for 5L also available to order in 25L drums...
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13 July 2010, 17:11
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Country: Ireland
Boat name: Joy Ride
Make: Ribtec655CamelTrophy
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 optimax
Join Date: Feb 2007
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So which rock oil would be best as a replacement to the mercury dfi?? Mp3, pp2 or synthesis??
The mercury is synthetic blend, is that fully or semi synthetic?
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13 July 2010, 17:18
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We sell MP3 to use on OPTI for summer usage, once into winter we change to Synthesis as it withstand freezing point, we also sell Synthesis for snowmobile usage.
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13 July 2010, 18:19
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: Hissing Sid
Make: Ross Smith Cobra
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13 July 2010, 19:17
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I will only use the real oil. This is mainly because I dont know enough about oil to risk using the 'wrong' stuff for the sake of saving a few quid - which in boating costs is next to nothing.
After a bit of local looking I go to Gareth @ Marinautic at cobbs quay in Poole.
£65 (ish) for 10l. I use about 15-20L over about 100hours each year in my 200.
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17 July 2010, 20:21
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New Oil
I have come accross a local supplier who manufacrures oil for lots of things, when I asked he does a 2 stroke oil.
I have the data sheet and have attached it for your comments.
I have removed the name of the business just in case!!
Do any of you think this oil is compatable, it is very reasonably priced?
Thanks
Lee
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17 July 2010, 21:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gloucestershire
Boat name: Osprey
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Engine: E-tec 300 G2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diverdad
I have come accross a local supplier who manufacrures oil for lots of things, when I asked he does a 2 stroke oil.
I have the data sheet and have attached it for your comments.
I have removed the name of the business just in case!!
Do any of you think this oil is compatable, it is very reasonably priced?
Thanks
Lee
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Only one way to find out
If it's not suitable then you can always sell the engine for parts
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18 July 2010, 22:42
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Optimax oil
I was hoping for a reply with a little more certanty!
Lee
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18 July 2010, 22:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diverdad
I was hoping for a reply with a little more certanty!
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The spec sheet states TCW3, which DFI oil is not.
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18 July 2010, 22:59
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Optimax oil
Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
The spec sheet states TCW3, which DFI oil is not.
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