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19 May 2006, 09:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mayfair, London
Make: RibEye/Ferretti 881
Length: 7m +
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Ouch!
Not having a great start to the season.
First bust half my prop off...but new one on, ran great.
Now I've hit somthing and busted off a large chunk of Skeg!
Boat and engine all run and handle well however, only noticed when I lifted the engine. Don't know what did it.
Question is... how do you repair this. From looking at engine, it's not a bolt on, but looks like I would need to replace the whole lower half casing!
Is it OK to get an expert to weld a replacement part. It's about a third of the Skeg gone.
Or do I really need to do anything????
Thanks
Tim
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19 May 2006, 09:38
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Country: UK - England
Town: Felixstowe
Boat name: WhaleOilBeefHooked
Make: Ribeye
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha F80
Join Date: Nov 2004
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Sure is a lot of C**P in the Thames !
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19 May 2006, 09:52
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Originally Posted by timw
Not having a great start to the season.
First bust half my prop off...but new one on, ran great.
Now I've hit somthing and busted off a large chunk of Skeg!
Boat and engine all run and handle well however, only noticed when I lifted the engine. Don't know what did it.
Question is... how do you repair this. From looking at engine, it's not a bolt on, but looks like I would need to replace the whole lower half casing!
Is it OK to get an expert to weld a replacement part. It's about a third of the Skeg gone.
Or do I really need to do anything????
Thanks
Tim
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Give these guys a ring http://www.streamlinedpropellers.co.uk/
They can repair the damage just send off the bottom casing.
Have used them for doing my Prop twice now and have had it out and back in 3 working days top service
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19 May 2006, 09:53
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Tim
Don't worry - too much.
You will be lucky to find a good used replacement lower casting and new ones are very costly.
But there are specialists around that will weld a new skeg on for you, but you will need to strip out the gearbox first to avoid any heat damage to the internal componants, so factor in the cost of new seals etc.
Unfortunatly I don't know of anyone to recommend in your area, but I'm sure somebody else will.
Nasher.
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19 May 2006, 11:02
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If the boat steers fine, just file it smooth and apply a bit of paint.
Less drag.
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19 May 2006, 13:04
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Town: Calshot
Boat name: Swan Song
Make: LM 27
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TimW
Sorry to hear this mate,will you still make it on the London cruise?
Dean
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19 May 2006, 17:59
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Heed Nasher's advice.
A friend of mine had his skeg repaired; welder did a great job, but unfortunately performed the work in situ. Problem developed the next time the boat was run, in the form of a mangled lower unit. Heat apparently destroyed the propshaft seal, letting all the oil out. (Yamaha covered the LU under warranty, so that was good.)
Personally, if it doesn't affect handling, I'd paint it and leave it alone.
jky
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19 May 2006, 20:28
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Country: UK - England
Town: Mayfair, London
Make: RibEye/Ferretti 881
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yamaha 25/Twin MTU
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Thanks all for the good advice.
Will trial a little more to see if it performs as well with some skeg missing as it did before and may so will just paint and leave.
Otherwise will get a replacement welded on by Steel Developments who are experienced noting the precautions to take.
For those reading this who are going on the Thames Cruise...i've now done hundereds of hours now based on the Thames and stangely enough the bust prop and skeg only happened last couple of times out so this must be a fluke...so don't worry about it!!!
Dino...yup I will be there as only moored a few hundred yards from your launching point...should be a blast.
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20 May 2006, 17:03
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Town: London/Oxford
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How have you manage to cause so much damage these last couple of weeks??
Are you sure the guy mooring behind you didn't help it off? I go looking for skeg sized chunks missing from your neighbours boats!!
Steel Developments really are the UK propeller guru's and we a lucky to have them based so near to us both. I'd stick with them for the repairs without a doubt.
Chris
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20 May 2006, 22:00
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Town: Dublin & Enniscrone
Boat name: K'adó
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Length: 7m +
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Skeg Rebuild
Tim
Sorry to hear about your troubles.
Skeg and prop on Katandra were showing a lot of wear!
I got them both rebuilt by a guy who rebuilds aeroplane props.
He did a fantastic job.
As I see it the shortened skeg offers your prop and gear casing less protection. Next time you hit something it might well destroy your prop and /or could wreck your gearbox. Better get it seen to before it becomes a serious job.
Best of luck.
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21 May 2006, 18:13
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Town: Herne Bay
Boat name: Rotary Rescue
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Skeg
Castle marine also repair props and skegs, have used them and you wouldnt know it has been repaired.
Missing skeg only really comes into play when operating in shallows as its also there to protect prop.
Paul
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21 May 2006, 19:33
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Thanks all...prop and skeg shorytly going to Steel Developments (local, I can drop off) for repair.
CJL...as to the Thames, not sure if you've been here recently, but there has been more than the usual debris in the river these last few days. It's always worst at high tide, was out yesterday at low tide and the water was completely clear of anything.
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22 May 2006, 17:46
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Originally Posted by timw
Thanks all...prop and skeg shorytly going to Steel Developments (local, I can drop off) for repair.
CJL...as to the Thames, not sure if you've been here recently, but there has been more than the usual debris in the river these last few days. It's always worst at high tide, was out yesterday at low tide and the water was completely clear of anything.
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The Thames is always worse on big spring tides, as they lift debris from way up the strandline on the foreshore and get it all afloat again. You can see the original line of the shore sometimes from all the rubbish! Trick is to spot the line of debris and go one side or the other of it. The debris often seems to flatten out the ripples on the surface, so where the water looks nice and glassy, it is often the most full of crap! Once you get your eye in, you will miss most of the big bits...
CJ Marine based on the Thames Barrier Trading Estate welded a new skeg to our Mercuiser outdrive. Good job and seems to be holding up will to the bangs and bashed it gets when we ground the boat.
t
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27 May 2006, 06:17
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Town: San Diego.California
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Skeguard
Looked at these when I damaged my Skeg.
However broke off so much that there was not enough to bolt to.
http://www.overtons.com/cgi-bin/over...c+HSAL+Bargain
Maybe it would work for you though
cheers Dal
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27 May 2006, 09:58
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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28 May 2006, 23:52
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Member
Country: USA
Town: New York City
Boat name: Liverbird
Make: Caribe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 40
Join Date: May 2005
Posts: 33
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skegard
Hey Tim i too have the skegard (from overtons acually ,Limeydal) and i think they are absolutely excellent.I installed on my outboard from new but its also possible to fit one afterwards to replace a damaged skeg.
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