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03 April 2013, 23:26
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RIBnet supporter
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
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Originally Posted by willk
A suggestion - replace it before it appears to need it. You then have a spare AND you know how to fit it
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Just learnt this the hard way. Ruined a days sibbing. Cord looked fine to. Doh.... spare cord would have been useful
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04 April 2013, 00:10
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
Length: 7m +
Engine: Yam 85
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Originally Posted by apples
hi henry, the wire brush will be brass & is for cleaning the plugs.
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No it's not. If you clean plugs with a brass wire brush they'll never work again. They'll get a nice brass colour coating all over the electrode.
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04 April 2013, 06:04
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Member
Country: Other
Town: isla plana spain
Make: humber/yam 360s
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard 90+15+20
MMSI: mmsi 235907606
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must admit not used a brush on plugs since seagull days other than threads, if motor ok no need these days, maybe a squirt of brake cleaner & annual change, cheap as chips on ebay for most but alas not for twatsoo tldi
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04 April 2013, 09:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by apples
must admit not used a brush on plugs since seagull days other than threads, if motor ok no need these days, maybe a squirt of brake cleaner & annual change, cheap as chips on ebay for most but alas not for twatsoo tldi
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I hear that Dave, those TLDI plugs are silly money! Yours comes back from service this week
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ www.BoatsandOutboards4Sale.co.uk ~ 07930 421007
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04 April 2013, 12:03
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: wolverhampton
Boat name: bluefin
Make: picton
Length: 4m +
Engine: outboard
Join Date: Nov 2011
Posts: 137
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DONT!! grease the splines on your driveshaft. If you do you can put extra load on the bearings on your engine which will result in premature wear, light oil will be fine. Also be aware that wd40 is a degreasent and will infact cause rust. I have found white spray grease very good, inexpensive and designed for marine applications
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04 April 2013, 12:23
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve66
DONT!! grease the splines on your driveshaft.
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Clymer suggest a light coating of marine grease for this application. Use too much and you'll "suction lock" the shaft in place.
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04 April 2013, 12:42
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Country: UK - England
Town: The wilds of Wiltshire
Boat name: Dominator
Make: SR5.4
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Engine: Yam 85
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve66
DONT!! grease the splines on your driveshaft. If you do you can put extra load on the bearings on your engine which will result in premature wear, light oil will be fine Also be aware that wd40 is a degreasent and will infact cause rust.
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Who told you that lot? Your DRIVESHAFT (not propshaft) will still need greasing on reassembly, but it needs a very light smear. Way Too much grease may cause a the joint to have hydraulic pressure buildup in it which could cause bearing damage, but using a light oil is asking for trouble.
Not greasing propshaft splines is asking for a prop to seize onto the shaft.
WD40 is a lubricant in a carrier fluid,and it can be used to clean grease off but it's not suitable for use as a lubricant except for freeing things off (and there's better options available like PlusGas). It's not suitable for use spraying up under the cowl to protect anything as the lubricant film it leaves is too thin and dries out. Corrosionguard or the equivalent is the best option for that.
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Originally Posted by steve66
I have found white spray grease very good, inexpensive and designed for marine applications
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Any good waterproof grease will do the job. However, I've been using Corrosion Block grease for the last 5 years as it doesn't seem to harden and clog up steering etc, and does what it says on the tin.
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04 April 2013, 12:44
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Country: UK - England
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Quote:
Originally Posted by willk
Clymer suggest a light coating of marine grease for this application. Use too much and you'll "suction lock" the shaft in place.
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That too I've seen a driveshaft refuse to go back in from a hydraulic lock as well.
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04 April 2013, 17:24
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Member
Country: Other
Town: isla plana spain
Make: humber/yam 360s
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard 90+15+20
MMSI: mmsi 235907606
Join Date: Jun 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
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cheers peter £11.78 on fleabay, dan said he will email when done but i guess its handy being with him out the way so to speak
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04 April 2013, 17:28
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Town: Plymouth
Length: 6m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by apples
cheers peter £11.78 on fleabay, dan said he will email when done but i guess its handy being with him out the way so to speak
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He was away over Easter I think and I told him no rush so just waiting for his call really.
Peter @ Boatsandoutboards4sale ~ www.BoatsandOutboards4Sale.co.uk ~ 07930 421007
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04 April 2013, 17:30
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Member
Country: Other
Town: isla plana spain
Make: humber/yam 360s
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard 90+15+20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Boats&Outboards
He was away over Easter I think and I told him no rush so just waiting for his call really.
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05 April 2013, 14:27
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#32
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Lima-Peru
Boat name: Nautile
Make: Sea Rider 450 Rib
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 5/18/30 HP
Join Date: Sep 2007
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Henry,
Is that a brand new Tohatsu 25 HP ? We sell & service 2 strokes 25/30 Tohatsu horses, have lots of good tips for preventive, corrective maintenances.
Happy Boating
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05 April 2013, 17:13
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: hydradrive
Make: yamaha
Length: no boat
Engine: sterndrives
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 290
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve66
DONT!! grease the splines on your driveshaft. If you do you can put extra load on the bearings on your engine which will result in premature wear, light oil will be fine. Also be aware that wd40 is a degreasent and will infact cause rust. I have found white spray grease very good, inexpensive and designed for marine applications
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I've never had a crank bearing go from greasing the spline
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06 April 2013, 00:10
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#34
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Thornbury
Make: Avon Searider 4m
Length: 4m +
Engine: 50hp tohatsu tldi
Join Date: Sep 2012
Posts: 648
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Locozodiac
Henry,
Is that a brand new Tohatsu 25 HP ? We sell & service 2 strokes 25/30 Tohatsu horses, have lots of good tips for preventive, corrective maintenances.
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2006 30-40 hours on it. what tips are those then?
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06 April 2013, 08:07
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#35
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Aberdeenshire
Boat name: Sula
Make: Ribcraft 4.8m
Length: 4m +
Engine: Tohatsu 70hp + aux
MMSI: 235087213
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 4,645
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Quote:
Originally Posted by yam man
I've never had a crank bearing go from greasing the spline
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No, I haven't heard that one either. I'd have thought light oil was a waste of time which would be removed after the first dunk. I've 'greased my splines' for as long as I can remember. Prop always comes off, and never had a crank bearing failure.
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07 April 2013, 00:18
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#36
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: yorkshire
Boat name: little vicky
Make: avon ex RNLI
Length: 3m +
Engine: tohatsu
Join Date: Mar 2008
Posts: 2,310
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Quote:
Originally Posted by steve66
DONT!! grease the splines on your driveshaft. If you do you can put extra load on the bearings on your engine which will result in premature wear, light oil will be fine. Also be aware that wd40 is a degreasent and will infact cause rust. I have found white spray grease very good, inexpensive and designed for marine applications
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Greasing the splines is ok ,
though i can see your point if you was to put a blob of really heavy thick grease ontop of the shaft & splines then shove it in it could cause a Hydraulic lock making
the drive shaft not go home proper ,
suppose then it then could put pressure on the bearings when you nip up the bolts on the leg ,
(( first day at work send the young apprentice around asking if anyone has a key for a hydraulic lock )
Some splined shafts have a small concave dimple on top that helps .
Id rather put a light coating of grease on the splines than try get it off when its rusted stuck .
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07 April 2013, 10:57
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#37
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: southampton
Boat name: hydradrive
Make: yamaha
Length: no boat
Engine: sterndrives
Join Date: Sep 2012
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This grease situation on the spline causing bearing failure is a load of bull. I'm sure Clyde outboards will back me up being in the trade
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