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04 September 2022, 18:49
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Outboard primer bulb? Buy Genuine?
Hi all
As my primer bulb needs pumping up every day I expect the return valve is on its way out.
Probably going to replace the complete pipe fittings etc.
Question is it worth paying the extra for genuine Yamaha? Over others?
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04 September 2022, 19:33
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I do.
The rubber seems to last a little longer.
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05 September 2022, 11:19
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Take it you've ruled out any leakage at/in the engine such as leaky pipe/hose connections or sticky carburettor float valve?
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05 September 2022, 11:54
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Boat name: Nimrod II
Make: Aerotec 380
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Engine: Yam 15 Tohatsu 9.8
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I've had new Yamaha and Quicksilver which were well made... Suzuki less so failing after a few runs. I wouldn't bother with unbranded given the hassle of any fuel issues on the sea.
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05 September 2022, 14:55
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Boat name: Bluefin
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I agree, but unbranded fuel bulbs are excellent for bleeding difficult diesels, like the freelander and 4 pot volvo’s
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05 September 2022, 18:41
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You can’t go wrong with genuine Yamaha. +1 for Quicksilver too.
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Is that with or without VAT?
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05 September 2022, 19:20
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Quote:
Originally Posted by paintman
Take it you've ruled out any leakage at/in the engine such as leaky pipe/hose connections or sticky carburettor float valve?
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Thanks I will have a check, but not aware of any issues. The bulb is never empty just always starts better after a small pump.
I’ve been thinking about replacing it for a few years so is on my “winter to do list”
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05 September 2022, 19:27
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Checking on line BHG for example looks like pipe, bulb and both ends come premade.
Which is good but annoying as I’ll have to take the tank end off to thread in to seat base[emoji34]
Stainless hose clip? Or invest in the correct tool etc to remake it?
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06 September 2022, 15:01
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You can purchase parts separately to make exactly what you need.
Don’t scrimp on the fuel pipe either.
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06 September 2022, 15:16
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Originally Posted by A1an
You can purchase parts separately to make exactly what you need.
Don’t scrimp on the fuel pipe either.
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Yup, I use Parker hose whenever I can. Also stainless Oetiker clips rather than jubilee types for small stuff. If I use clamp type clips, Mikalor is my go to brand.
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06 September 2022, 21:10
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Thanks everyone I’ll probably buy a made up system, then remake one end.
Who doesn’t like having an excuse to buy some new tools [emoji1]
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06 September 2022, 21:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
. Also stainless Oetiker clips rather than jubilee types for small stuff.
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What’s wrong with a couple of cable ties like the rest of us
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06 September 2022, 22:29
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What’s wrong with a couple of cable ties like the rest of us [emoji38]
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Not a joke, many outboard manufacturers use cable ties all over their under the hood fuel hoses. If its good enough for the engine manufacturers its good enough for me. They dont scratch the hell out of stuff like metal hose clips either
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06 September 2022, 23:22
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beamishken
Not a joke, many outboard manufacturers use cable ties all over their under the hood fuel hoses. If its good enough for the engine manufacturers its good enough for me. They dont scratch the hell out of stuff like metal hose clips either
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I hear you but the cable ties are usually used on pipes that aren’t under any stress and are tucked out the way under the hood.
I wouldn’t use cable ties on a portable tank where the fuel line has the chance of being snagged or tugged by feet/hands/sliding tank etc.
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07 September 2022, 08:08
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Quote:
Originally Posted by A1an
I hear you but the cable ties are usually used on pipes that aren’t under any stress and are tucked out the way under the hood.
I wouldn’t use cable ties on a portable tank where the fuel line has the chance of being snagged or tugged by feet/hands/sliding tank etc.
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I use them all the time, you'll snap the plastic tail off before you pull a hose off. Never had an issue even with two boys 3 & 6 plus the dog jumping about the boat, had them damage a couple of hoses by standing on the hose right next to the hose tail but the tiewraps always hold up & need cut to remove
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