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17 July 2014, 20:47
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Painting Outboard
Hello All
Has anyone successfully painted their outboard?
I was going to try and repaint my lower unit with the official Yamaha outboard paint. Any pictures of other paint jobs would be great to see.
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17 July 2014, 20:49
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Perfect preparation will be key.
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17 July 2014, 20:49
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Nugent is your man, he's done some awesome looking jobs.
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17 July 2014, 20:52
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if you take it back to any bare aluminium you will have to use an acid etch primer on any bare aluminium before using a normal primer just a light wash coat of the etch is fine .upol acid 8 is a decent 1 pack etch that is available in aerosols
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17 July 2014, 21:03
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Quote:
Originally Posted by beerbelly
if you take it back to any bare aluminium you will have to use an acid etch primer on any bare aluminium before using a normal primer just a light wash coat of the etch is fine .upol acid 8 is a decent 1 pack etch that is available in aerosols
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Was going to use Zinc Chromate Primer?
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17 July 2014, 21:04
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Originally Posted by jamool
Was going to use Zinc Chromate Primer?
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Not recommended on aluminium. There is a special self etching primer for that.
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17 July 2014, 21:13
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Originally Posted by GordyP
Nugent is your man, he's done some awesome looking jobs.
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Done the odd one or two ,
Before n after pm on way
Ed.
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17 July 2014, 21:18
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Quote:
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Was going to use Zinc Chromate Primer?
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Zinc chromate is defo best way
Top coat 100% recommend acrythane A211 for best results. And longevity
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17 July 2014, 21:23
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Was going to use Zinc Chromate Primer?
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up to you mate I find it chips too easily. but every one has there own favourites and ways of doing things
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17 July 2014, 21:25
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up to you mate I find it chips too easily. but every one has there own favourites and ways of doing things
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Zinc chromate is best etch primer money can buy for Ali ?
We give a 5 year warranty on all our applications , bare ali yellow etch 2 coats primer 3 x top coat. Going no place trust me
PVB/zinc chromate coating specfically for aluminium. Can be used on other ferrous metals and non-ferrous metals, galvanising, etc.
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17 July 2014, 21:30
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From an electrochemistry perspective the zinc is more electropositive than the aluminium, therefore the aluminium will corrode preferentially over time. o)
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17 July 2014, 21:31
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What do you guys use to get rid of the last really tough bits of original paint ? (The bits you cant easily sand or wire brush)
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17 July 2014, 21:32
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What do you guys use to get rid of the last really tough bits of original paint ? (The bits you cant easily sand or wire brush)
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I just blast it ,, spoilt where I work
Failing that paint stripper
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17 July 2014, 21:33
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Landlockedpirate
What do you guys use to get rid of the last really tough bits of original paint ? (The bits you cant easily sand or wire brush)
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Patience.
(I SMART repair cars & caravans professionally & sometimes things take a bit longer, but the quality of the prep work will be reflected in the finished job)
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17 July 2014, 21:35
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Quote:
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From an electrochemistry perspective the zinc is more electropositive than the aluminium, therefore the aluminium will corrode preferentially over time. o)
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Would have to disagree sir,
Aluminium
For aluminium and its alloys, although the clean surfaces are easily coated and adhesion is excellent, performance can be upgraded using a proprietary zinc chromate conversion coating.
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17 July 2014, 21:35
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LOL
Any special kind of stripper (besides blonde, obviously )
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17 July 2014, 21:36
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local powder coaters use zinc chromate on wheels and swear by it . iv had wheels done of them and they have chipped. wheels I have painted myself and used DuPont 635 2k as an etch never had any problems .I was only offering advice for a diy job based on my own experience
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17 July 2014, 21:38
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local powder coaters use zinc chromate on wheels and swear by it . iv had wheels done of them and they have chipped. wheels I have painted myself and used DuPont 635 2k as an etch never had any problems .I was only offering advice for a diy job based on my own experience
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No probs , as your self can only vouch from my own experience , Most etch used is over applied in my experience ,,and this is a big no no,, Enjoy your night sir Ed
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17 July 2014, 21:46
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read somewhere that someone used a propane torch to warm the metal and get a glossy appearance. Have you tried this?
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17 July 2014, 21:49
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Quote:
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read somewhere that someone used a propane torch to warm the metal and get a glossy appearance. Have you tried this?
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On plastic bumpers and similar products
Using a hot air gun. You can get it to go glossy again if mated off
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