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31 July 2006, 15:37
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
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Petrol/Water Separator..where from?
Hi All,
After 15 years of service the transom mounted fuel/water separator has finally failed; the recent heat has cracked the glass bowl.
Now, it seems that such glass items are now severely frowned upon and it also seems that all the separators I have looked at are for Diesel only.
I have a suzuki DT85 Outboard fed from an inboard petrol tank so really need the protection of such a separator.
Where can I get one?
Cheers,
Orve
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31 July 2006, 15:52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
Join Date: Jul 2003
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Your local mercury dealer probably stocks a merc fuel/water seperator and mounting bracket.
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31 July 2006, 16:05
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Country: Other
Town: Principalite d'Chaos
Boat name: The Nashers Revenge!
Make: Windsor Brothers
Length: 6m +
Engine: Optimax 225
MMSI: "Mmmmm SI" she said!
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Orve
I use a Glass bowl diesel one for my DT200EFI and before on a Johnson 150VRO with no problems.
As I understand it the Diesel ones are OK to use for Petrol, but the Petrol ones are not OK for Diesel.
They are often on Ebay.
Nasher
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31 July 2006, 17:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Rutland
Length: no boat
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Hi
I got mine from ebay came with the hose tails etc and a two part filter bottom is a polycarb bowl with drain and the top is a 10 micron filter.
ebay number was 4644242850 and v quick delivery
James
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31 July 2006, 18:43
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Make: HumberOceanOffshore
Length: 8m +
Engine: Volvo KAD300/DPX
Join Date: Oct 2002
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Lancing Marine. A clear bowl, brass drain and a stainless steel element. Therefore, no filters to buy in the future. Around the kwid mark, so not cheap.
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31 July 2006, 20:35
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Diesel unit will be fine - get one from a diesel specialist (look in Yellow Pages), as it will be cheaper than from a chandler. Replacement filters are only a couple of quid, so it pays to keep a spare on board.
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01 August 2006, 21:26
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Country: UK - England
Town: London/Oxford
Make: Ribcrafts
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The fitters at where I work have had to replace all the glass fuel filters on all our plant, apparently for H+S reasons. Most of these are diesel so it might be worth considering the implications of putting petrol in them!!!
Chris
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02 August 2006, 08:25
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Country: UK - England
Town: Saltash, Cornwall
Make: Rib less:-(
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The simple glass bowl ones are only single stage filters and are ok, but I seem to bemember you are not allowed glass bowls if its a comercial boat.
If you want to make the jump up to a higher standard ie a 3 or 4 stage filter, try Racor and Separ filers.
I know ASAP supplies do one the Racor units and Keypart do the Separ units.
From what I have seen the diesel units will work fine with petrol. Just watch out you are not over filtering and thus causing a fuel starvation issue.
Rgds
James
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02 August 2006, 09:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: Gosport
Boat name: April Lass
Make: Moody 31
Length: 9m +
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Jelly
The simple glass bowl ones are only single stage filters and are ok, but I seem to bemember you are not allowed glass bowls if its a comercial boat.Rgds James
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Have a glass bowl on Old Spice and no problem with the coding. Enables me to see the colour of the fuel (Red ) and if there is any water in the filter. For inland use the original spec didn't allow glass bowls but that might have changed. Mermaid advised that 292 filters are very fine filters for diesel fuel and I think 512 courser.
Pete
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02 August 2006, 11:38
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Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Bumbl
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Length: 8m +
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the merc part that matt mentiones is not suitable for fitting to the transom of a rib since both the cast ali "head" and the powdercoated steel filter cartridge corrode quickly when exposed on the transom of a rib and get covered in salt water every time you go out!
inside an engine box on matts boat, fine :-)
Top banana had one of these fitted under the seat. the head was still starting to corrode after 2 years and the cartridges rusted aswell.
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02 August 2006, 13:07
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Country: UK - England
Town: Farnborough
Boat name: Narcissus
Make: Cobra
Length: 7m +
Engine: Optimax 225
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Fair comment.
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02 August 2006, 13:14
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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The ally will corrode, but a regular squirt of WD40 will keep the corrosion at bay, to a degree. In the past, I've had more corrosion on the pipe fittings than the filter body. At around a quid each, I'm not bothered if I have to change them every couple of years.
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02 August 2006, 13:15
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: Margate / Ramsgate
Boat name: Bumbl
Make: Scorpion
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Engine: Yanmar diesel
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aern't they brass? i seam to remember mine were.
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