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23 August 2006, 21:44
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< Edit: Split from the E-TEC AND OPTIMAX 200's thread. JK >
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
also consider the smartcraft and other gadgets, stainless prop etc etc, swap out to a mirage prop if you can rather than the lazer 2 it will potentially come with
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Why the Mirage prop Chris? What improvements has it made over the Laser II
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23 August 2006, 22:12
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Searider
Why the Mirage prop Chris? What improvements has it made over the Laser II
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lazer 2 is a high lift prop for lightly laden boats, mirage is a progressive pitch prop which apparently gives better grip and better top end, also you can trim up further with them to lift the bow further which is essential for some boats.
a few people i have spoken to over the past months really rate them
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23 August 2006, 22:32
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
lazer 2 is a high lift prop...
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Tell us who told you that, Chris
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23 August 2006, 23:15
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
a few people i have spoken to over the past months really rate them
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Have you got one? I thought you had a Laser II?
I know that Halmatic use the Mirages on the Arctic 28s - they told me that they perform better over a wider range of loading conditions but do not give as good a top end as a Laser II.
Would be interested to hear first hand experience of a Mirage on our type of lightly laden high powered boats.
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25 August 2006, 08:31
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Searider
Have you got one? I thought you had a Laser II?
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i indeed have more than one prop
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25 August 2006, 08:38
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard B
Tell us who told you that, Chris
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my trim switch, steel developments and 4-5 other people
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25 August 2006, 11:22
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I'm still sceptical! I received this pearl of wisdom, but directed at Yamaha props, when contemplating a Solas prop. I eventually bought a Solas prop off a guy who told me that he was staying with Yamaha props as he was confident with their performance having used them for thousands of hours on charter RIBs.
I used the Solas for a hunderd hours or so, in a wide variety of conditions. It performed badly. I went back to the Yahama prop and another hundred hours or so later I agree with the bloke who sold me the Solas!
If you look at a Laser II and a Yamaha standard stainless steel prop, they are very different shapes, so I wonder what particular quality makes them "high lift" props?
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25 August 2006, 11:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Richard B
I'm still sceptical! I received this pearl of wisdom, but directed at Yamaha props, when contemplating a Solas prop. I eventually bought a Solas prop off a guy who told me that he was staying with Yamaha props as he was confident with their performance having used them for thousands of hours on charter RIBs.
I used the Solas for a hunderd hours or so, in a wide variety of conditions. It performed badly. I went back to the Yahama prop and another hundred hours or so later I agree with the bloke who sold me the Solas!
If you look at a Laser II and a Yamaha standard stainless steel prop, they are very different shapes, so I wonder what particular quality makes them "high lift" props?
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I personally don't reckon the Laser 2 to be an 'outboard' prop at all. I think it's more suited to outdrive set-ups. I ran a QS Vengeance (which is an out and out large outboard prop) 19P on mine. I then swapped to 21P Laser2. All that acheived was a 'numbing' of the accelleration and no difference in top end whils't still pulling 5700rpm.
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27 August 2006, 00:34
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mollers
I personally don't reckon the Laser 2 to be an 'outboard' prop at all. I think it's more suited to outdrive set-ups. I ran a QS Vengeance (which is an out and out large outboard prop) 19P on mine. I then swapped to 21P Laser2. All that acheived was a 'numbing' of the accelleration and no difference in top end whils't still pulling 5700rpm.
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Well my optimax outboard came fitted with one as standard. My new Verado has a Tempest II and it goes like shit
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28 August 2006, 21:49
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
i indeed have more than one prop
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But have you got a Mirage and, if so, how have you found it to perform in comparison with your Laser II?
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29 August 2006, 21:09
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well this threads well fkkd now
< Edit: Rescued! JK >
duncan whiteshooz has just swapped out to a mirage and nipped over to the jackeens local and back, and he kept pretty good info on the performance it might be worth asking him!
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