Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 07 March 2013, 20:44   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,446
Propeller Solutions

Having had the HD gearboxes fitted to our Verado's, we found that dispite the ratios being the same, the engines seemed to be over geared, with a reduction in RPM at WOT.

We were recommended to discuss with Thomas at Propeller Solutions and he recommended take down the pitch by an inch.

The job was done very quickly and to a high standard and would recommend for any of your prop problems.

Steve
__________________
Steve_B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 21:04   #2
Member
 
martini's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
Took me almost a year to get my props back off him, by which time they almost needed doing again!

Thought I'd give him a second chance when I had a prop with cracked blades. First step was for him to send me a couple of special tig welding rods to see if they could be welded before I shipped them to him for finishing. I gave up waiting for the rods.

I think you probably need to be in his face to get things done.
__________________
martini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 21:18   #3
RIBnet supporter
 
gotchiguy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by 250kts View Post
the ratios being the same,
Are you sure? As far as I was aware, both the old 4.8inch and the new SD 5.44inch gearboxes have 1.85 ratios whereas the HD has a 1.75 inch....

Also, how are you finding the solid prop hub or has it not been an issue
__________________
gotchiguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 21:21   #4
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
Quote:
Originally Posted by martini View Post
I think you probably need to be in his face to get things done.
Without in any way dismissing Martini's experience, a friend of mine sent his S-S outboard prop to Steel Developments recently, it was fairly badly chewed, and it came back in due course, to Ireland, perfectly sorted.
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 21:24   #5
RIBnet supporter
 
gotchiguy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
Without in any way dismissing Martini's experience, a friend of mine sent his S-S outboard prop to Steel Developments recently, it was fairly badly chewed, and it came back in due course, to Ireland, perfectly sorted.
Please try and read the OP's message in future, this thread is about Propeller solutions not Steel Developments.



__________________
gotchiguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 21:38   #6
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy View Post
Please try and read the OP's message in future, this thread is about Propeller solutions not Steel Developments.



Good point Grasshopper. I get confused. Mostly 'cos he hates Steel Development too...

Or at least, he hates the burd on the switchboard
__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 21:50   #7
RIBnet supporter
 
gotchiguy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
Good point Grasshopper. I get confused. Mostly 'cos he hates Steel Development too...

Or at least, he hates the burd on the switchboard
I thought that was at Propeller solutions?

http://www.rib.net/forum/f36/prop-re...tml#post384144

Quote:
Originally Posted by martini View Post
I'm probably going to go to Propeller Solutions despite having to speak to a woman when I rang. Would have been nice to talk shop with someone who knows about props but there ya go.
__________________
gotchiguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 21:54   #8
AJ.
RIBnet supporter
 
AJ.'s Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Warwickshire
Boat name: Impulse
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki 140
Join Date: Sep 2011
Posts: 1,020
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post

Good point Grasshopper. I get confused. Mostly 'cos he hates Steel Development too...

Or at least, he hates the burd on the switchboard
That's you told!

+1 Martini and after chasing got sent a completely different prop had to send him a picture of the original. He did however waive the carriage costs
__________________
AJ. is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 22:01   #9
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
Quote:
Originally Posted by AJ. View Post
That's you told!
That's me told.

I find it hard keeping track of 14,449 specific prejudices. I apologise, it wasn't the woman at Steel Developments, it was women in Any Manly Activity Company...

__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 22:13   #10
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,446
Re - ratios, that was the info from Barrus??

Re Propeller Solutions - I can only comment on what I experienced. He seemed very busy with a lot of props being worked and waiting. Most of his work seems to come from Greece and Australia.

This is his website Powertech stainless steel and aluminium propellers from Propeller Solutions

Steve
__________________
Steve_B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 22:31   #11
RIBnet supporter
 
gotchiguy's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Dinard, Brittany
Boat name: Into the Red
Make: Osprey Vipermax
Length: 7m +
Engine: Evinrude E-tec 250HO
MMSI: 235 076 114
Join Date: Apr 2009
Posts: 1,957
RIBase
Quote:
Originally Posted by 250kts View Post
Re - ratios, that was the info from Barrus??
I have just double checked and you're right, the old 4.8inch box is 1.75 too, so no change in ratio. Only other difference is the 1.25 inch propshaft requiring a racing solid hub system meaning meaning that if you hit anything in the water or the bottom then the whole engine is probably toast as the shock loading will be transmitted throughout the engine rather than absorbed by a rubber hub melting.
__________________
gotchiguy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 22:59   #12
Member
 
martini's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
I'm sure I remember a conversation that didn't involve me regarding the lady at SD and her attitude/telephone manner.

So you may not be completely losing the plotter just yet...
__________________
martini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 23:04   #13
Member
 
martini's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: jersey
Boat name: Martini II
Make: Arctic 28/FC470
Length: 8m +
Engine: twin 225Opti/50hp 2t
MMSI: 235067688
Join Date: Jun 2005
Posts: 3,030
Quote:
Originally Posted by willk View Post
women in Any Manly Activity Company...
Them blades is sharp mister, wimminfolk just ain't ready yet
__________________
martini is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 07 March 2013, 23:05   #14
Member
 
Oscarguitar's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Poole
Boat name: Half Cut
Make: Cobra 8.6
Length: 8m +
Engine: Verado 275
MMSI: 235104619
Join Date: Jun 2011
Posts: 381
This thread I think

http://www.rib.net/forum/f36/prop-re...ies-39421.html
__________________
Oscarguitar is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 March 2013, 08:18   #15
RIBnet admin team
 
willk's Avatar
 
Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
Join Date: Feb 2008
Posts: 14,898
Quote:
Originally Posted by martini View Post
Them blades is sharp mister...
...oops! For a moment there I had forgotten that I was now in the evil grip employ of Lord Vetinari, m'pologies!

I'll just slip off for that saucer of milk now...

__________________
.
willk is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08 March 2013, 22:27   #16
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,446
Quote:
Originally Posted by gotchiguy View Post
I have just double checked and you're right, the old 4.8inch box is 1.75 too, so no change in ratio. Only other difference is the 1.25 inch propshaft requiring a racing solid hub system meaning meaning that if you hit anything in the water or the bottom then the whole engine is probably toast as the shock loading will be transmitted throughout the engine rather than absorbed by a rubber hub melting.
The output shaft seems to be the same diameter too! We have the same props and the rubber hub protecting the gearbox/engine.

Props back on tomorrow and hoping for a quick blast through the harbour to check it at WOT. Not for fun you understand, cause the Parker is just no fun at those speeds

Steve
__________________
Steve_B is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 25 March 2013, 23:15   #17
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Hamble
Boat name: Worth the wait
Make: Parker
Length: 7m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Apr 2008
Posts: 1,446
Just a quick foot note to this thread.

Prior to the props being tweeked, the engines would rev to 5700 at WOT, hit 41kts and feel sluggish (for the Parker) when hitting the power.
Took them to Propeller Soultions and asked for 6100.
Had a quick sea trial on Sunday (bloody cold) and the result was spot on 6100, in excess of 45kts and more importantly, that great shove in the back on hitting the throttles. A very happy man and a great service
Steve
__________________
Steve_B is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 10:01.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.