Red diesel decision time!

[mdt]

Welcome to Brairs' Britian.

I am just waiting to see how long it is till we are all made to have REG numbers on the boat and next there are speed cameras on the sea… and traffic wardens at every anchorage.

[jwalker]

If the tax concession is removed, why would we need red diesel? Just get the folk who are allowed, to claim back their tax.

[Mollers]

It'll be a hefty fixed amount fine. Trying to calculate anything will be impossible. I still think that they just do not have the man power to police this policy. If I owned a diesel boat, I'd be having a bladder tank fitted now. The government can just about argue a case for massive duty on DERV, but pleasure boats? Pure revenue gleaning bullshit!

[John Kennett]

Originally Posted by jwalker

If the tax concession is removed, why would we need red diesel? Just get the folk who are allowed, to claim back their tax.

Because I don't think that the government is prepared to take the aggro from fishermen and other commercial users!

John

[Nick Thompson]

Originally Posted by Mollulnan

Pure revenue gleaning bullshit!

Yep, but the government just blame it on EU harmonisation that way they don't look like the bad guys, but then seem to forget that the price of diesel is much cheaper in most of the EU anyway.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Nick Thompson

Yep, but the government just blame it on EU harmonisation that way they don't look like the bad guys, but then seem to forget that the price of diesel is much cheaper in most of the EU anyway.

But surely the arguement there is for the abolishment of red diesel completely. The EU have whined on about red diesel for years. The farmers and fisherman have powerful lobbyists and for the government to go head to head with these guys is aggro, so lets hit the guys that can't hit back. And, in terms of total fuel based revenue, the additional amount gained from this will be so pathetically little why bloody bother?!! To appease the fat b**tds in Brussels!!!

[Nick Thompson]

Originally Posted by Mollulnan

But surely the arguement there is for the abolishment of red diesel completely.

Of course that would be the simple answer, but then there wouldn't be the need for civil servants to enforce the system.

[DM]

Originally Posted by Rogue Wave

AW sorry only joshing

Very funny.

Next time you do a job for me, I recommend www.multimap.co.uk

Using this resource enables you to drive from Devon to Hampshire in about two and a half hours, not ten.

DM

P.S. You're fired.

[Andy Gee]

Originally Posted by John Kennett

Because I don't think that the government is prepared to take the aggro from fishermen and other commercial users!

John

There wont be any aggro if Commercial users get the duty back. This is certinally the way that the fishermans associations are saying it would happen. Basically another form along with the existing duty refund, and the farmers would do the same.
I dont know however what other users i.e Construction Machinery will do......bare the costs and try to get an increase in the rate
Andy

[Nick Thompson]

Originally Posted by Andy Gee

There wont be any aggro if Commercial users get the duty back.

I was listening to a couple of fishermen bitching about this over VHF a couple of weeks ago & they said it will hurt their cashflow because it will take upto 4 months to get back.

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Nick Thompson

I was listening to a couple of fishermen bitching about this over VHF a couple of weeks ago & they said it will hurt their cashflow because it will take upto 4 months to get back.

OK then keen students who've done their VHF courses, which two actions described here are technically "illegal"?

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Richard B

OK then keen students who've done their VHF courses, which two actions described here are technically "illegal"?

Swearing and blaspheming.

[Rogue Wave]

Originally Posted by davidmanning

Very funny.

It's just a gift but thanks for noticng!

Originally Posted by davidmanning

Next time you do a job for me, I recommend www.multimap.co.uk

Using this resource enables you to drive from Devon to Hampshire in about two and a half hours, not ten.

stuff Multimap I should have gone to specsavers

Originally Posted by davidmanning

P.S. You're fired.

That's the first time that's ever happened to me!

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Mollulnan

Swearing and blaspheming.

Possibly (by implication) in which case it's three things!

[Nick Thompson]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Possibly (by implication) in which case it's three things!

There wasn't any, so back to two

[Andy Gee]

Originally Posted by Nick Thompson

I was listening to a couple of fishermen bitching about this over VHF a couple of weeks ago & they said it will hurt their cashflow because it will take upto 4 months to get back.

It'll only hurt for the first 4 months and hurt a lot less than not gettin getting it at all which is something that we are looking at for the construction machinery .
May-be we should just do what the french do and block all the ports, it works for them
Andy

[Nick Thompson]

Originally Posted by Andy Gee

not gettin getting it at all which is something that we are looking at for the construction machinery . Andy

I thought every one knew that builders & the construction industry were making money hand over fist, not like the poor farmers & fishermen who can now only afford to buy a new Range Rover every 15 months.

[Andy Gee]

Originally Posted by Nick Thompson

I thought every one knew that builders & the construction industry were making money hand over fist, not like the poor farmers & fishermen who can now only afford to buy a new Range Rover every 15 months.

No its every 12 months then we buy them off them ....if only
Andy

[Nick Thompson]

Originally Posted by Andy Gee

No its every 12 months

It was every 12 months, but such is the depth of their poverty that it's every 15 months now.

[qcamel]

well what did the old iron man say about red diesel duty in the pre budget report today?

Ollie