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27 January 2011, 18:09
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: Prestatyn
Boat name: Ray fish 2
Make: Caribe
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redex
is it possible to use redex in your outboard fuel tank, and will it work...
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27 January 2011, 18:35
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Boat name: Blue C
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2 or 4 Stroke ??
Carb or DFI ?
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27 January 2011, 18:40
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Town: cookoo land
Boat name: tba
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FuelSet (Liquid Engineering)
Used this Aussie product for years. Good stuff.
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27 January 2011, 19:17
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Prestatyn
Boat name: Ray fish 2
Make: Caribe
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Engine: Outboard Petrol
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2 stroke mariner 90 carbed 10 years old 89hrs use
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27 January 2011, 19:22
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Town: Salisbury
Boat name: Blue C
Make: XS 600
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Cant see what harm would be done, should help to clean the carbs and aid in decoking the head,
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27 January 2011, 19:43
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: Prestatyn
Boat name: Ray fish 2
Make: Caribe
Length: 6m +
Engine: Outboard Petrol
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just looked on the fuelset website,250ml treats a 1,000 litres of fuel, for 11quid...thats a hell of a saving, just a niggle... can an outboard become addicted to these products like a tractor or desiel engine becomes addicted to ..easy start
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27 January 2011, 19:56
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: bristol
Boat name: astra
Make: zodiac 340s
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Hi,not sure if this will work on 2 smokes but BG44K is supposed to be the thing to use??
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27 January 2011, 23:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rayfish2
just looked on the fuelset website,250ml treats a 1,000 litres of fuel, for 11quid...thats a hell of a saving, just a niggle... can an outboard become addicted to these products like a tractor or desiel engine becomes addicted to ..easy start
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Engines don't get addicted to easy start! People do!
People who use Easy start are getting around a problem with the engine not starting. If you don't fix the problem then you'll always need the easy start to get things going, hence why people think they are addicted.
But it's the people who use Easy start that are the addicted ones They're just too lazy or tight to get the engine fixed.
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28 January 2011, 10:08
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Country: UK - Wales
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redex
so i take it using redex after an enginge lay up is ok, mixed in with 100lrts of fresh fuel, i havent used easy start honest!!!
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28 January 2011, 11:13
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
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My definition of easy start is turning a key instead of pulling a rope!
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28 January 2011, 17:11
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easy start
using easy start on a diesel engine it WILL get adidicted to the damn stuff because when the diesel is injected into the bore it is a relitivey slow burn, when you use easy start it is a sudden bang and the piston rings after a while start to break up, with petrol engines it can have the same efect but over a longer period, the moral is DONT USE THE BLOODY STUFF
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31 January 2011, 20:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by uncle al
easy start
using easy start on a diesel engine it WILL get adidicted to the damn stuff because when the diesel is injected into the bore it is a relitivey slow burn, when you use easy start it is a sudden bang and the piston rings after a while start to break up, with petrol engines it can have the same efect but over a longer period, the moral is DONT USE THE BLOODY STUFF
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Bollox, I'm with Hightower, the reason ANYONE uses easystart is because there's not enough compression (or glow plugs,) to generate the heat, to ignite the diesel. A year later and it's "addicted" because it won't start without it!
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31 January 2011, 20:53
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Originally Posted by free
Bollox, I'm with Hightower, the reason ANYONE uses easystart is because there's not enough compression (or glow plugs,) to generate the heat, to ignite the diesel. A year later and it's "addicted" because it won't start without it!
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It maybe use or indeed bad use of language, but are they not in fact saying the same thing!!
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01 February 2011, 00:36
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The other bit of logic behind engines getting addicted to easy start is that you are starting with a presumably half fked engine if you are even considering using it (often this is poor compression due to bore wear / knackered rings) and then pouring vast amounts of strong solvent into the bores (the easy start) which will wash the oil off the bores causing the rings to scrape up and down with little or no lubrication and thus make the bore wear even worse... vicious circle!
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03 February 2011, 11:27
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problem with using easy start is that it ignites in the cylinder before the diesel fuel has chance to propely burn at the right time causing pre ignition which in turn can cause piston crown cracking ,
with regards to it washing off the oil in the rings i wouldent have thought that it would get in there in such a vast quantity going through the normal air intake as its Either based an evaporates fast .i thought that easy start brand came out in the late 1940s for use in truck or tractors as most diesel engines in those days usually had poor batterys and wouldent start too good in cold weather .it saved holding a burning newspaper infront of the air intake.
with regards to redex a rep from the company told us years ago it was just a light oil with a few exciting words on the label .
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03 February 2011, 13:43
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
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Make: Caribe
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Redex
So its not worth bothering with then, was thing of using it to blast the carbs out ......
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03 February 2011, 20:59
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Quote:
Originally Posted by rayfish2
So its not worth bothering with then, was thing of using it to blast the carbs out ......
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Not a lot of point in that. Cleaning them properly is a better bet.
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