Rude E-tec sinks yamaha

[Roy Smith]

My Sister as ordered a 8 mt rib for feb 08 del and she has not speced the engine
yet, she wants a Yamaha, but only because we have one, but on cost grounds
i have told her to look at Etec.

[Julian]

Hi Roy,

What boat is your sister going for. Is she after a Scorpion to keep them in the family.

Hope your well

Julian

[Stoo]

Does this one belong to anyone here?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4cYb_fFzvhM

[pathalla]

Originally Posted by Stoo

Does this one belong to anyone here?

If nobody wants it I'll take it as a spare....

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Stoo

Does this one belong to anyone here?

Yes they have posted on here a few times.

[Brambles]

Originally Posted by Richard B

Yep.... it's like Vauxhall saying thay can match Lexus for quality and reliability!

What they don't mention is that Evinrude engines can't live up to their economy claims in the real world and their propellors are useless junk. All imho of course and based on heresay....

Hmm, interesting video! I guess that it must be true, otherwise Yamaha would be chucking all their lawyers at Evinrude?

Anyway, the impressive torque figures go a long way to explaining why the bigger Etecs are such a **stard to set up. I've lost count of the number of props we went through (either destroying the rubber bush, or with ventilation problems) on our 250. At Ribbex last year one of the reps for Evinrude admitted off the record that the later 250s have been remapped to produce less power to try to help. What a shame to release a product on to the European market and then expect the customers to sort out this fundamental problem..

By the time the boat was sold the prop issue had been solved. However, the Etec broke down three times on the poor unfortunate new owner. With a problem unknown to us I hasten to add.

Is the Etec a good engine? Yes

Would I recommend one? With regrets, probably not.


Ian

[Erin]

Hmmmm good vid. But, whilst I'm no physicist (not sure I can even spell it) either the engine is producing more power than the badge on the side says, or it started accelerating first, which meant the yam had to be stronger to pull back and regain the 'balance'

Surely, if you have two identical engines, with the same props, doing the same revs, they must, by the laws of physics, produce an equal force. I'd like to see the same again with two etecs. It must only take a momentary delay in throttle control on one boat and the same would happen.

Just my 2 cents

K

[codprawn]

Originally Posted by Brambles

Hmm, interesting video! I guess that it must be true, otherwise Yamaha would be chucking all their lawyers at Evinrude?

Anyway, the impressive torque figures go a long way to explaining why the bigger Etecs are such a **stard to set up. I've lost count of the number of props we went through (either destroying the rubber bush, or with ventilation problems) on our 250. At Ribbex last year one of the reps for Evinrude admitted off the record that the later 250s have been remapped to produce less power to try to help. What a shame to release a product on to the European market and then expect the customers to sort out this fundamental problem..

By the time the boat was sold the prop issue had been solved. However, the Etec broke down three times on the poor unfortunate new owner. With a problem unknown to us I hasten to add.

Is the Etec a good engine? Yes

Would I recommend one? With regrets, probably not.


Ian

I am pretty sure people have been having the same probs with the bigger Suzukis as well. I think it could be down to the fact they are trying to push too much power through some pretty small props.

[Richard B]

Originally Posted by Erin

...either the engine is producing more power than the badge on the side says, or it started accelerating first, which meant the yam had to be stronger to pull back and regain the 'balance'.

Or a two-stroke has a broader torque spread than a four stroke

[Hugh Jardon]

Originally Posted by Brambles

At Ribbex last year one of the reps for Evinrude admitted off the record that the later 250s have been remapped to produce less power to try to help.

Ian

i had heard this by another means as well, apparently the optis are up on power, apparently the 200 is more like 217 whereas the etecs are down on power compared to what they say on the lid

you hearing it aswell adds to the weight that it could well be true

[GED]

[QUOTE=Hugh Jardon;211184] i had heard this by another means as well, apparently the optis are up on power, apparently the 200 is more like 217 whereas the etecs are down on power compared to what they say on the lid


're mapping to get the power down on etecs'...what a load of b**lcks thats why their new 300hp is a re mapped up version of the 250hp and as for 'etecs are down on power compared to what they say on the lid'.... the 225ho etec is 247hp.

The new etecs are a great engines, powerfull, light weight, economical and very reliable....but all this is of no use if the boat and engine has been set up wrong by the owner or dealer.
Im not into... 'my engine is better then your engine'.. but as a rule of thumb always check out the resale price of a engine to get a true indication of it.

[Hugh Jardon]

[Cookee]

Originally Posted by GED

'.... the 225ho etec is 247hp.

As far as I am aware the HO engines are something quite different and Evinrude do not quote the real horsepower of these engines to get around Bass fishing rules - the idea is to package an engine with a lower rated horsepower than it is to cheat the system - this is only true of the "HO" badged motors ............... I raced against a 200HO in 2005 and no-one at Evinrude would quote a horsepower although there was a speculation! (we still won the championship!)