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31 July 2010, 00:06
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Running on both pots?
Hi all any idea how i know 20hp is running on both pots? apart from the feel,sound,as i have no idea,please help
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31 July 2010, 08:22
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I would try by disconecting spark plug wires, one by one, then you will know. Good luck
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fun on a boat is inversely proportional to size...sort of anyway
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31 July 2010, 08:47
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but not whilst the engine is running!
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31 July 2010, 09:06
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Originally Posted by NeilH
but not whilst the engine is running!
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Correct, sorry, forgot to mention!
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31 July 2010, 09:09
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what about disconnecting one spark plug and firing it up and listen to the sound?
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31 July 2010, 09:12
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Originally Posted by thornbackflound
what about disconnecting one spark plug and firing it up and listen to the sound?
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Thats what they're saying.
You could do it with the engine running but you'll need to use some insulated eagle beaks or similar.
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31 July 2010, 09:18
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Originally Posted by chewy
Thats what they're saying.
You could do it with the engine running but you'll need to use some insulated eagle beaks or similar.
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insulated eagle beaks or similar.me not understand that bit?can i just pull the cap off of one of them?
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31 July 2010, 09:21
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insulated eagle beaks or similar.me not understand that bit?can i just pull the cap off of one of them?
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You can but you risk getting a belt if you do it with the engine running.
If you do it whilst running use rubber coated tools, that way you won't get a belt.
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31 July 2010, 09:40
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Quote:
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You can but you risk getting a belt if you do it with the engine running.
If you do it whilst running use rubber coated tools, that way you won't get a belt.
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Arh i was thinking on the lines of pulling off the spark cap,holding the plastic hood and pull starting it,that way i am only holing the pull start cable and steadying the engine holding on to the hood,should not get a belt from that?
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31 July 2010, 09:47
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If you have hold of the ht lead and try and start the engine you could still get a belt. Try rest the plug against the block and watch for a spark.
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31 July 2010, 09:52
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Did this once on a motorbike years ago - if i jut remove the HT lead I'll know which cylinder is misfiring - next step pick yourself up off the floor!
the experience has stayed with me!
Neil
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31 July 2010, 10:08
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i still don t understand i will not be touching the engine inside just thinking of taking of the spark plug cap,pull starting it ,listening to it run,then put cap back on,listen again and hear if there is any difference
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31 July 2010, 10:17
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If the insulation on the cap has the slightest break in it you will get a belt, it'll be about 10,000 volts.
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31 July 2010, 10:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chewy
If the insulation on the cap has the slightest break in it you will get a belt, it'll be about 10,000 volts.
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10,000 volts.I give up is this a wind up,lol,im just to thick to understand how can i get a bolt from touching the hood and plastic pull cord handle
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31 July 2010, 10:31
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Quote:
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how can i get a bolt from touching the hood and plastic pull cord handle
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Don't worry you cant! Just don't hold the HT lead
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31 July 2010, 10:54
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Originally Posted by thornbackflound
10,000 volts.I give up is this a wind up,lol,im just to thick to understand how can i get a bolt from touching the hood and plastic pull cord handle
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Like Martini said you won't from holding the hood and pull cord but I wouldn't fancy holding the ht lead.
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31 July 2010, 11:07
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Quote:
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Like Martini said you won't from holding the hood and pull cord but I wouldn't fancy holding the ht lead.
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No i would not be daft enough to do that,lol.ive had enough electric shocks in my time,had a metal bodied old black n decker drill stuck to me hand one time buy christ thought i was gonna die,hair stood on end,everthing looked brighter,oooooooooooooh,lol
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31 July 2010, 12:10
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Well heres the plan,take of cap of spark plug while engine is OFF ,pull start it,STOP engine replace cap ,then take the other cap OFF whilst engine is OFF, start engine again ,listning to different sounds i should tell right? ,off course it may well be running on both,just was not when first started when i came to buy it,the chap just heated up the spark plug and then both started,he is obviouly used to how it sounds,so i hope this way i have a peice of mind? its so annoying,lol,and bugging me
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31 July 2010, 12:14
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Quote:
Originally Posted by thornbackflound
Well heres the plan,take of cap of spark plug while engine is OFF ,pull start it,STOP engine replace cap ,then take the other cap OFF whilst engine is OFF, start engine again ,listning to different sounds i should tell right? ,off course it may well be running on both,just was not when first started when i came to buy it,the chap just heated up the spark plug and then both started,he is obviouly used to how it sounds,so i hope this way i have a peice of mind? its so annoying,lol
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Should be easy enough to tell the difference on a 2 cyl, it'll run like a bag o' s**te on one!
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31 July 2010, 12:51
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Quote:
Originally Posted by martini
Should be easy enough to tell the difference on a 2 cyl, it'll run like a bag o' s**te on one!
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cheers mate ,i like that bag of shite,yes i think its more of a pop pop sound,should be a ticking sound,say could be alright,put it in gear and emptied half the water
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