Seagull on a 5.4m Searider

JSP · 25 April 2009, 12:51

I want to have a little back up motor. But there's naff all room on my transom. So I thought about having a Seagull long shaft (well found one for sale close by). Any Seagull owners fancy doing me a favour? Could you measure the width for me? I can always borrow my dads Mariner 2.2hp which is very small but wondered if a Seagull would be slimmer.

Nos4r2 · 25 April 2009, 15:54

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Originally Posted by JSP

I want to have a little back up motor. But there's naff all room on my transom. So I thought about having a Seagull long shaft (well found one for sale close by). Any Seagull owners fancy doing me a favour? Could you measure the width for me? I can always borrow my dads Mariner 2.2hp which is very small but wondered if a Seagull would be slimmer.

Which model seagull? There's about six.

JSP · 25 April 2009, 16:13

This one.

Leapy · 25 April 2009, 16:16

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Which model seagull? There's about six.

I've got a 1960's 1.5hp 10:1 mix smokey-Joe special

Can't believe you'd want the measurements for that

But I can if you insist

JSP · 25 April 2009, 16:36

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I've got a 1960's 1.5hp 10:1 mix smokey-Joe special

Can't believe you'd want the measurements for that

But I can if you insist

If it fits in between the main engine and the tubes and gets me home then I wants one

Leapy · 25 April 2009, 16:47

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I've got a 1960's 1.5hp 10:1 mix smokey-Joe special

...which is 24cms at its widest point across the sit-on-top fuel tank

Its a Seagull Forty Featherweight. I've not run it for many years now. From memory, the 1.5hp was on a good day

Lots of character though. Still feel like it's a member of the family

JSP · 25 April 2009, 16:56

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...which is 24cms at its widest point across the sit-on-top fuel tank

Its a Seagull Forty Featherweight. I've not run it for many years now. From memory, the 1.5hp was on a good day

Lots of character though. Still feel like it's a member of the family

Cheers Leapy, your good lad

And as for being apart of the family, why not! Does it give you back chat? Does it go into a mood and give you grief once a month? No, then it sounds allot better family than my wife and kids

Nos4r2 · 25 April 2009, 17:01

Don't bother with an early seagull. The tilt 'lock' hook will release when you slam unless you're very lucky or bungee it up and you'll have to carry separate fuel as they run on between 10:1 and 25:1.
It'll push it OK, but any cheap £100 4hp 2 stroke would do the job better.

JSP · 25 April 2009, 17:11

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Don't bother with an early seagull. The tilt 'lock' hook will release when you slam unless you're very lucky or bungee it up and you'll have to carry separate fuel as they run on between 10:1 and 25:1.
It'll push it OK, but any cheap £100 4hp 2 stroke would do the job better.

Doesn't sound to good, was hoping to steal your idea of pumping fuel into the tank from my main tanks.

I've only ever seen a Seagull in photos' but thought they were thinner than you average more modern 2 stroke? If they aren't I may as well stick with the Mariner. I'll drive up to my dads soon and get his off him and then take it down to the RIB. See if it fits.

Leapy · 25 April 2009, 17:12

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Originally Posted by Nos4r2

Don't bother with an early seagull. The tilt 'lock' hook will release when you slam unless you're very lucky or bungee it up and you'll have to carry separate fuel as they run on between 10:1 and 25:1.
It'll push it OK, but any cheap £100 4hp 2 stroke would do the job better.

Got to agree with Nos, John. As much as I love it, as much as it doesn't go into a grump, as much as it doesn't back-chat and as much as I would never part with it...as an outboard motor it's about as much use as Zimbabwian $1m bank note

Nos4r2 · 25 April 2009, 17:31

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Got to agree with Nos, John. As much as I love it, as much as it doesn't go into a grump, as much as it doesn't back-chat and as much as I would never part with it...as an outboard motor it's about as much use as Zimbabwian $1m bank note

I dunno about that... They'll push a tender along nicely, or a displacement hull-and are quite reliable if they've got the later ignition and you know your onions,but as an aux for a rib, forget it.

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Doesn't sound to good, was hoping to steal your idea of pumping fuel into the tank from my main tanks.

I've only ever seen a Seagull in photos' but thought they were thinner than you average more modern 2 stroke? If they aren't I may as well stick with the Mariner. I'll drive up to my dads soon and get his off him and then take it down to the RIB. See if it fits.

Nah, the tank is usually a bit wider, and as it's at the back it's the bit that gets in the way of the main engine the most.

JSP · 25 April 2009, 17:39

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.as an outboard motor it's about as much use as Zimbabwian $1m bank note

Nos,
Makes sense, and with my Yam being V shaped you loose more room the further the aux motor sticks out from the transom.

chewy · 25 April 2009, 19:52

Hands offs John, I had my eyes on that. I'm after one to mount in the front room, brilliant engine!

JSP · 25 April 2009, 20:05

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Hands offs John, I had my eyes on that. I'm after one to mount in the front room, brilliant engine!

Not going for it now mate. But could help you out. Got friends coming over from Rotherham soon (I've informed the home guard) so I could pick up for you and send it back with them.

Leapy · 25 April 2009, 20:34

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I'm after one to mount in the front room, brilliant engine!

Something I've always wanted to do...have an iconic engine as a lounge ornament. Remember the Monty Python sketch...two Python characters dressed as women in a lounge sat around what looks like a RR Aero Engine. "What's that?"..."It's a piston engine"..."What's it do?"..."Nothing. It's just for looking at"

chewy · 25 April 2009, 20:50

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Something I've always wanted to do...have an iconic engine as a lounge ornament. Remember the Monty Python sketch...two Python characters dressed as women in a lounge sat around what looks like a RR Aero Engine. "What's that?"..."It's a piston engine"..."What's it do?"..."Nothing. It's just for looking at"

Got a link to that? I love the one on the lifeboat!

My wife has already said I ca have one in the front room so its just finding one that doesn't need muc work...

Leapy · 25 April 2009, 21:08

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Got a link to that?

Never found it...can find a vaguely similar sketch by MP but the engine's in a park...have never found the lounge sketch

mdt · 25 April 2009, 22:59

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Originally Posted by Leapy

Something I've always wanted to do...have an iconic engine as a lounge ornament. Remember the Monty Python sketch...two Python characters dressed as women in a lounge sat around what looks like a RR Aero Engine. "What's that?"..."It's a piston engine"..."What's it do?"..."Nothing. It's just for looking at"

oh right you mean a bit like this then? http://www.casanovacars.com/others/r...fee_tables.php

i have an tvr 5l v8 block sat in the garage.....

one day

m chappelow · 25 April 2009, 23:29

seagull with the largest old brass tank is 14 inches wide with small tank about 10 inches wide .thats on the biggest seagull .will push my 18 ft heavy displacement fishing boat at 5 knots ,on mine the oil is 10 /1 i just use old engine oil and had no problems for 30 years with it .did you know that you could get a long line hauler attachment that ran off the flywheel for seagulls ,,,as an aux you wont get any speed with a large rib but it will push it ok ,seen a 70 ft canal barge using one ,

Leapy · 26 April 2009, 07:42

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oh right you mean a bit like this then? http://www.casanovacars.com/others/rover_v8_coffee_tables.ph

No, too chic, too Ikea, when dressed up like that. Rover V8: too common, not iconic: a classic, but not iconic. RR Merlin fits the bill nicely, but not modded to look like a coffee table - or anything else for that matter. Just the Merlin as RR intended. Saw one the other week as a display at Brunel Uni. Pity I didn't have a sack truck with me

It's a piston engine

...not the best one, but the only I can find