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09 July 2009, 10:29
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Squeaking Noise - Evinrude Ficht Ram 115
I've got a squeaking noise coming from the starboard engine, sounds a bit like the flywheel rubbing on something. I've had a good look at it and so now has the Evinrude dealer but both of us have drawn a blank. The engine is running perfectly.
Anyone else had this issue??
Cheers Gordy
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09 July 2009, 11:40
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What's compression like compared to the port engine?
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09 July 2009, 11:48
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They have done a commpression test and its fine apparently, the engine is running as sweet as can be and the squeaking noise comes and goes.
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09 July 2009, 12:45
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Could be mouse then.
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09 July 2009, 13:30
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Originally Posted by GordyP
I've got a squeaking noise coming from the starboard engine, sounds a bit like the flywheel rubbing on something. I've had a good look at it and so now has the Evinrude dealer but both of us have drawn a blank. The engine is running perfectly.
Anyone else had this issue??
Cheers Gordy
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Gordy,
Check for any blockages with air path into the engine,if something partially blocks this, it can cause a swirl making a squeaking noise.
Next idea's a wee bit of rust on the flywheel, you keep both engines tidy, but if left down and anodes have worn at some point in the past they rust up quite quickly,that would obviously cause it.
Next idea's bad news, seals and bearings in the leg can sound like they're coming from the head end.
Best of luck,
Iain.
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09 July 2009, 14:32
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Mmmm, if i find the mouse I'm gonna take it diving with me and feed it to a conger eel!!
Inside of the engines are pretty clean, no rust to be seen. If it continues I'll maybe drop the gearboxes and have a look but the Evinrude guys don't seem to think its a problem.
All i know is that i no likey unexplained noises, maybe i should liberaly spray the thing in WD40 and see what happens??
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10 July 2009, 20:11
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Mmmm, if i find the mouse I'm gonna take it diving with me and feed it to a conger eel!!
Inside of the engines are pretty clean, no rust to be seen. If it continues I'll maybe drop the gearboxes and have a look but the Evinrude guys don't seem to think its a problem.
All i know is that i no likey unexplained noises, maybe i should liberaly spray the thing in WD40 and see what happens??
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An air leak due to a split pipe somewhere?
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14 July 2009, 11:14
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Ok, so ran it twice over the weekend. The squeak disappears over about 3,000 revs and the engine is running fine?????
What's going on?????
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15 July 2009, 12:11
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long shot but is there any movement on the fly wheel other than it rotates ,could be wear in the top bearing and it only doing it at certain revs and starts wobbling and then catching something inside the flywheel ,or is the flywheel tight enough ,i have known a few weird sounds with engines that have had pull starts fitted on top and the pawls have started catching at certain revs though its usually a chirping sound ,mart
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15 July 2009, 13:04
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Ahh, it could be described as a chirping sound! I'll have a look at the weekend and see if there's any movement.
Thanks.
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18 July 2009, 13:02
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Squeaking then turned into rattling, piston rings gone in one pot! Damn!!
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18 July 2009, 14:10
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could have been oil starvation into that cylinder. How old is the motor?
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19 July 2009, 14:58
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looks like jono was right ,
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19 July 2009, 15:19
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looks like jono was right ,
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What a mouse?
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19 July 2009, 17:24
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no his first post ,,,lol
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21 July 2009, 16:54
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Motors are 2001, I'm going to get rings replaced all round and have them check the bearings while the engine is stripped down. Checked the price of new ones - terrifying at the moment!!
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22 July 2009, 14:31
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Ok now looking at a re-engine, anyone interested in two 115 Fichts? The port engine is running fine, the starboard will either be for spares or will require a re-bore on one pot and new piston rings.
Port engine can be seen running for the moment.
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27 July 2009, 20:43
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Find attached some photos including one which shows what happens when a piston chews on its own rings.
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28 July 2009, 00:10
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Did you degrease the piston before taking the photo? Looks mighty dry and does indicate an oil injection problem with that cylinder.
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28 July 2009, 09:45
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Here's a photo of the one of the other cylinders.
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