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Old 29 March 2018, 08:04   #21
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the only reason I can see it causing problems is if was used to excess and it washed the oil off the bores back into the sump which wouldn't help the compression but that would take a lot of it as pretty much as it comes out the can it evaporates
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Old 29 March 2018, 09:04   #22
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A quick reply, regarding quick starts, the quick start products ignite sooner than the petrol/air mix, puting an abnormal strain on the piston rings. Which could cause them to break. With diesel engines, because the atomised fuel burns and not goes bang, again it puts an a normal strain on the piston rings, that's why. It gets over a period of time in exceptional circumstances the damn engines lose compression broken piston rings, scored bored.
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A quick reply, regarding quick starts, the quick start products ignite sooner than the petrol/air mix, puting an abnormal strain on the piston rings. Which could cause them to break. With diesel engines, because the atomised fuel burns and not goes bang, again it puts an a normal strain on the piston rings, that's why. It gets over a period of time in exceptional circumstances the damn engines lose compression broken piston rings, scored bored.
cummins and Detroit diesels come from the factory with start pilot I can't imagine it being an issue if they fit it I would think for rings to get broken they would need to be rattling about on the piston with very worn landings and bores
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Old 29 March 2018, 19:17   #24
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A quick reply, regarding quick starts, the quick start products ignite sooner than the petrol/air mix, puting an abnormal strain on the piston rings. Which could cause them to break. With diesel engines, because the atomised fuel burns and not goes bang, again it puts an a normal strain on the piston rings, that's why. It gets over a period of time in exceptional circumstances the damn engines lose compression broken piston rings, scored bored.
So you agree that the odd squirt for diagnostic purposes is unlikely to cause a problem in an otherwise healthy engine

As you say its physical damage to the engine that causes the none starting .Id say its very difficult to determine if a broken ring is caused by using sniff

While i dont advocate its use i stand by my belief that engines being addicted to sniff is an urban myth that stems from the fact people use it to start engines that otherwise wouldnt go at all without major repair
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Old 30 March 2018, 00:41   #25
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Well knowing the guy and his experience I’ll as always follow what Uncle Al says!
Second that.
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Thanks all for your advice and reading your discussions

I found, no priming, a little throttle, hold the choke in for a few seconds, turn the key and she starts. Thanks
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