Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
 
Old 15 August 2013, 20:48   #1
Member
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Essex
Make: Avon
Length: 5m +
Engine: Outboard
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 29
Starting problems.....

Hi all, this might be a bit of beginners ignorance but, I'm having trouble getting my Mariner 90 started, just been serviced and was all tickety-boo, but its taking me a good 5mins to get it running. Firstly just spins over, no problem there then it starts to get a bit smokey (2stroke) then the odd splutter then after a minute or so finally starts turning under its own steam..... Runs like a dream once she's warm.... Any suggestions welcome....

Thanks all,

Al.
__________________
Alanpatt is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 August 2013, 21:07   #2
Member
 
mister p's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,433
Choke?Idle mixture?
Wrong/fouled plug?
Timing?
__________________
mister p is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 August 2013, 21:08   #3
Member
 
mister p's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: LONDON
Make: SR4/ZODIAC/3D
Length: 4m +
Engine: 30T/40T
Join Date: Oct 2011
Posts: 1,433
Take it back to the guys that serviced it and take their belongings until it starts.
__________________
mister p is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 15 August 2013, 21:37   #4
Member
 
Tim&Linda's Avatar
 
Country: UK - England
Town: Crewe
Boat name: BLACK BOSS
Make: humber & searider
Length: 9m +
Engine: 2x200 ETEC & 2x40
MMSI: ex directory
Join Date: Jun 2013
Posts: 583
RIBase
just been serviced , you answer your own question take it back
__________________
Tim&Linda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 August 2013, 10:04   #5
Member
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
Join Date: Apr 2007
Posts: 4,671
OK, before you do, IF it's a Merc based Mariner it might be one of the ones with a slightly un-conventional choke..... which wen set up correctly don't follow the "normal" rules of starting.

Traditional choke does what you expect - blocks the air flow so the fuel - air mix gets higher.

The Merc "enrichener" chokes basically open a small fuel valve & add more fuel. Thing is if you lift the fist idle lever, you are letting more air in, so the Air- fuel ratio goes back to "normal-ish".

It sounds like if you are cranking with both, you will be pouring fuel in, but at too lean a mix to fire when cold. Needless to say when it finally accumuilates enough fuel in the analsd of the engine to actually fire, there's way too much fuel, hence the smoke.



So, When on initial start, don't lift the fiast idle lever - until it fires.
My cold start sequence goes like this:

"Choke" on - no fast ilde - turn key
When it fires - let go the choke switch and try to get the fast idle lever up.
- IF I can get the fast idle lever up quick enough, it keeps going.
- If not, second start is without "choke" and the fast idle lever up. - The fuel lying around in the engine from the first attempt then does what it's supposed to with the extra air.


Having said that, if it's a Yam based one all that I've just typed is irrelevant! Try it before you take it back.
__________________
9D280 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 16 August 2013, 10:14   #6
Member
 
neil.mccrirrick's Avatar
 
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Easdale
Boat name: Miss Isle
Make: Solent 6.9
Length: 6m +
Engine: 225 optimax
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 1,427
So my starting procedure, (obvioulsy once the fuel bulb is pumped and hard).

Turn the engine over, if it doesn't catch more or less immediatelty, i.e. 3 to 4 turns, press the key in for choke. If that's not an immediate start lift the idle lever.

Doesn't always kick in first time, but if I switch off and repeat it always starts by the 3rd go
__________________
I was born not knowing and have had only a little time to change that here and there.
neil.mccrirrick is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off




All times are GMT. The time now is 07:15.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.