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09 May 2013, 14:10
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Country: Ireland
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Starting Yamaha 4stroke
Hello all,when I started my 50 hp 4stroke yam after the winter lay up, I noticed that the motor was running for maybe 1minute before the telltale started spouting water,this water was slightly warm [lukewarm only].the motor started first turn and ran perfectly but I would like to know if the cooling water behaviour is normal?. Thanks to all.
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09 May 2013, 16:21
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Country: UK - Scotland
Boat name: Wildheart
Make: Humber/Delta Seasafe
Length: 5m +
Engine: Merc 60 Clamshell
MMSI: 235068449
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First thing I wouldn't expect instant telltale from any "dry" engine - if you can imagine the pump at the bototm of the leg needs to fill the pipe and normally a good chunk of the head before the water reaches the telltale hole.
Warm - probably - the water meets the now warmed metalwork. (any Yam 2-stroke I have used the telltale comes from near the "discharge" end of the passages, so will have been warmed on the way round whilst cooling the head. On my Merc the first thing the water meets is the telltle so it always runs cold. (and still takes about 20-30 seconds to start splurting water out)
Having said that, did yours squirt instantly before you laid it up for the winter?
I personally wouldn't worry too much, but probably worth getting the pump changed whatever happens.
Can any Yam owners confirm / correct what I just said?
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09 May 2013, 16:30
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Country: UK - England
Town: Bristol
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: Yamaha
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sounds ok, a tad slow but keep your eye on the power of the water exit
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09 May 2013, 17:31
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Country: USA
Town: Oakland CA
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Was this on muffs or in the water (sea, lake, river, or bucket)?
Often not enough water pressure on muffs to get an instant (well, quick, anyway) telltale stream.
If it comes up to "normal" telltale flow, I wouldn't worry too much about it.
jky
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09 May 2013, 17:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: Daventry & Beaulieu
Boat name: Tigga2
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
Length: 4m +
Engine: Honda BF50
MMSI: 235900806
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I use several boats with Yamaha engines and the tell tales often take ages before they start flowing. It was a bit worrying the first time I used them, until I mentioned it to the owners and they said "it's always been like that".
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09 May 2013, 17:35
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Country: UK - England
Town: Sticks, N.Yorks
Boat name: Tamanco
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My old Yam 85 took ages on muffs but was a lot quicker in a tank. The main thing is to get a good stream of water once it's running. If it's a bit feeble I'd check the impeller ! The water never seemed very hot.
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10 May 2013, 12:40
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Country: Ireland
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i cant say if it was always like this,never noticed it before.The motor was started in a big bin type thing,and when the telltale started, it was a strong stream of lukewarm water.I left it run for 10 minutes maybe and it remained the same temperature and strength.Maybe the cooling water has to reach a certain temperature before a thermostat or something opens to allow the water to exit through the telltale?I was watching the guages and all was normal during this time.Iwill keep a close eye on this when I next launch to see if the same thing happens and if there is any difference when starting engine from hot,as regards time taken to see telltale.Again i would like to thank all for their wisdom on this matter.
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15 May 2013, 21:21
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Country: UK - England
Town: London
Boat name: Adam's Rib
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Yamaha 100 (2T)
Join Date: May 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by 9D280
First thing I wouldn't expect instant telltale from any "dry" engine....
Can any Yam owners confirm / correct what I just said?
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Well my Yam 8 gets a tell-tale within 1-2 seconds of starting, every time.
My Yam 100 V4 takes 3-4 seconds.
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16 May 2013, 22:46
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Launched today,and noticed the telltale started after approx 2 seconds.There is a good strong stream of water and it is definitely slightly warmer than the sea.Engine ran perfectly.Happy days and thanks to all.
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30 May 2013, 13:21
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: Wee Dafty
Make: RibTec
Length: 5m +
Engine: Mercury 90HP
Join Date: Oct 2010
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I have found this before after a winter lay up from a season in salt water. If the engine is not flushed through properly then salt can crystalise in the pipework and it takes a bit of time to break down. All good after that though.
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30 May 2013, 20:55
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Country: Ireland
Make: Zodiac Mk I
Length: 3m +
Engine: 15 hp Yam two stroke
Join Date: Feb 2012
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Wee Dafty
I have found this before after a winter lay up from a season in salt water. If the engine is not flushed through properly then salt can crystalise in the pipework and it takes a bit of time to break down. All good after that though.
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Little bit of wire in the telltail-outlet works a treat,
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