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07 August 2019, 20:46
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Suzuki 140df advice
Hi
I have an 2007 XS600 running a Suzuki 140df which seems to be down on engine RPM.
At WOT I’m hitting around 4500RPM trimmed out. Engine revs to around 3800 RPM and then picks up to 4500 RPM when on the plane.
The boat is coded and therefore, carrying a lot of kit, 8 man life raft, two 8kg anchors and chain etc. Hitting these RPM 4 up with around 50l of fuel.
Running a 3x14x21 prop. Do you think I’m over propped or just heavy?!
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07 August 2019, 20:49
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Way over propped. I’m running a 4x13.5x19 on a heavy 545 & just touching 6k RPM with 2 up.
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07 August 2019, 21:39
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: ocean pro 6.3
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140hp suzuki
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I ran a 3x14x19 on that engine and it worked perfectly
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07 August 2019, 21:59
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: DF140a
MMSI: 235111389
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xpertski
I ran a 3x14x19 on that engine and it worked perfectly
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On which boat & what load though??
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08 August 2019, 00:46
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Country: Australia
Town: Dalmeny
Make: zodiac
Length: 5m +
Engine: outboard
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Over propped for sure, 17 pitch would be closer to the mark or possibly 15.
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08 August 2019, 10:51
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Country: UK - England
Town: Southampton
Boat name: SMH Rib / War Shot
Make: Ribtec / Scorpion
Length: 4m +
Engine: 100hp Yam/150hp opt
Join Date: Sep 2003
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Does the boat live afloat?
Is the bottom clean?
Might there be any water below the floor.
21" sounds too high to me. Is this the propeller that the boat came with? Has performance deteriorated over time?
Is the boat new to you?
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08 August 2019, 12:36
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Boat name: ocean pro 6.3
Make: Humber
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Engine: 140hp suzuki
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
On which boat & what load though??
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Humber Ocean Pro 6.3m. 70litres fuel, usually 2-4ppl aboard. With 2 ppl I got anywhere around 36-38knots and with a full boat of 6ppl got around 33knots
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08 August 2019, 12:41
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Country: UK - England
Town: South Yorks
Boat name: Black Pig
Make: Ribcraft
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Engine: DF140a
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Quote:
Originally Posted by xpertski
Humber Ocean Pro 6.3m. 70litres fuel, usually 2-4ppl aboard. With 2 ppl I got anywhere around 36-38knots and with a full boat of 6ppl got around 33knots
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What was the holeshot like with 6 up?
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08 August 2019, 17:24
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Country: UK - England
Town: Dorset
Boat name: Seabadger 2
Make: Delta / Ribcraft 6.8
Length: 7m +
Engine: Various
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Chris, I'd reckon over propped. I have various props for that engine in Poole. I use a 17" prop when loaded up with diving kit etc. If you're local you're welcome to borrow a smaller prop see if it helps
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08 August 2019, 21:56
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Country: UK - England
Town: Surrey
Boat name: ocean pro 6.3
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Engine: 140hp suzuki
Join Date: Feb 2004
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pikey Dave
What was the holeshot like with 6 up?
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It was ok but no fireworks
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09 August 2019, 21:05
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Fort William
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and ive just sold my 17 and 19 prop too. Id have lent them to you for testing...typical.
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11 August 2019, 20:50
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Searider
Does the boat live afloat?
Is the bottom clean?
Might there be any water below the floor.
21" sounds too high to me. Is this the propeller that the boat came with? Has performance deteriorated over time?
Is the boat new to you?
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Yes it’s the prop I brought the RIB with however, pre coding it always had a decent cruising speed and I never really noticed it cruising at around 3500 RPM. Now I’m carrying a lot of extra weight she feels really underpowered which started me looking at what RPM that engine should rev too.
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11 August 2019, 20:52
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Quote:
Originally Posted by diver 1
Chris, I'd reckon over propped. I have various props for that engine in Poole. I use a 17" prop when loaded up with diving kit etc. If you're local you're welcome to borrow a smaller prop see if it helps
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Thank you for the offer, unfortunately I’m actually up in Norfolk. The boat goes to a main Suzuki dealer for her winter servicing so I intend to chat to the guys about it then and hopefully they will have some test props..........
Just really seeing what people’s thoughts were on potential issues.
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