Suzuki DF140 Service

[roycruse]

I have booked my Suzuki DF 140 in for its first 20h service.

I got two very different quotes for the service from my two local Suzuki Dealers.

The first was like this :-

The price for a Suzuki DF140 20 hour service will be around £120 - £130 + VAT. This will include a full inspection of the engine, engine oil and gear oil change, fuel filter change, inspection of propeller, nut and pin and inspection of tappet clearance.

And the second like This :-

The cost from us would be approximately 220.00p This however includes removing bolts as necessary greasing, re-torque etc.

How can i find out what is supposed to be done in a service from an authorised dealer - ie what is the recommended task list and also what is the minimum task list.

[tomfalla]

My Suzuki df250's first service (20 hours) was £130 ex VAT, I would expect yours to be no more than that. However I am in the channel islands and our labour rate may be slightly cheaper.

[randski]

Roy
My first sevice, June this year was £143.68 (IBS Falmouth)

SUMP PLUG GASKET............................................ ........00.66
GASKET............................................ ........................01.39
OIL FILTER............................................ ....................10.98
OIL............................................... ...........................25.06
ANTI-CORROSION GUARD............................................. 02.94
GEAR OIL............................................... ...................14.86
LABOUR............................................ ........................85.78

[Kernow Buoy]

Sump Plug Gasket............................................ ........00.66
Gasket............................................ ........................01.39
Oil Filter............................................ ....................10.98
Oil............................................... ...........................25.06
Anti-corrosion Guard............................................. 02.94
Gear Oil............................................... ...................14.86
Labour............................................ ........................85.78
Filling Boat With Drain Water..................................priceless!

[randski]

Originally Posted by Kernow

Filling Boat With Drain Water..................................priceless!

Not going to live that down for a while am I.

[Kernow Buoy]

Originally Posted by randski

Not going to live that down for a while am I.

Sorry mate but it fitted too well not to add it!
don't worry I'll never mention it again

[Mollers]

I thought that Caradon now had Bob under contract, Bob parks the Zodiac up under the relevant discharge and it saves it from going in the sea.

[Hugh Jardon]

Roy


i believe you will find what is done at the service intervals in the owners handbook, if you dont have what you need then give me a shout and i can put you intouch with someone who knows

Originally Posted by roycruse

I have booked my Suzuki DF 140 in for its first 20h service.

I got two very different quotes for the service from my two local Suzuki Dealers.

The first was like this :-

The price for a Suzuki DF140 20 hour service will be around £120 - £130 + VAT. This will include a full inspection of the engine, engine oil and gear oil change, fuel filter change, inspection of propeller, nut and pin and inspection of tappet clearance.

And the second like This :-

The cost from us would be approximately 220.00p This however includes removing bolts as necessary greasing, re-torque etc.

How can i find out what is supposed to be done in a service from an authorised dealer - ie what is the recommended task list and also what is the minimum task list.

[Alex Brown]

My first DF140 service was £98.......

The second one was £250
£120 of that was apparently labour according to the logsheet I have here.

As Hugh says, it's all in the owners handbook. I am about 4 to 5 months past 12months since the previous service and will be getting it serviced just before christmas as the 200hr service (yes, I have barely used the boat this year - weather and work issues ) which is likely to cost another £250 (great planning around christmas eh).

I am out of warranty now, but will continue to get the thing serviced (despite being stupid expensive) at the local authorised Suzuki dealer.

If you need any more info, let me know.

-Alex

[Mollers]

Just had a full service on my Opti which has done 400 hours. £456. They charged me £4 to spray WDF (wd40) around the thing.

[Kernow Buoy]

Originally Posted by Mollulnan

Just had a full service on my Opti which has done 400 hours. £456. They charged me £4 to spray WDF (wd40) around the thing.

Yea but be fair............

they had to move 500 bales just to see it

[Hugh Jardon]

thats because they know how well off you are!!

Originally Posted by Mollulnan

Just had a full service on my Opti which has done 400 hours. £456. They charged me £4 to spray WDF (wd40) around the thing.

[limeydal]

just picked up my DF 90 from its 100hr service yesterday.
Main Suzuki dealer in San Diego charged me $85.00 labor and $51.00 parts
($33.00 engine oil/filter and $18.00 gear oil ) Checked engine /controls and greased for a total of just under $140.00
Thought that was pretty reasonable
cheers Dal

[hard1]

Originally Posted by limeydal

just picked up my DF 90 from its 100hr service yesterday.
Main Suzuki dealer in San Diego charged me $85.00 labor and $51.00 parts
($33.00 engine oil/filter and $18.00 gear oil ) Checked engine /controls and greased for a total of just under $140.00
Thought that was pretty reasonable
cheers Dal

USA Cheaper? Are you kidding me? Only by about 1/2. That's about 80 Sovs here.

We ARE the most ripped off and overtaxed nation on the planet. Weep for us...

[roycruse]

OK had the service done came in at 146.57 all in.

Got the print out from the engine management system.

Do any mechanics out there know what this stuff means - i have broken down the file into a header and a footer and a repeating caution section which i assume was the condition of the engine when the (in my case) the low battery warnings were recorded (i think these were me turning off the power at the isolator switch)

But the bit I would like to know is what are the normal / min / max values for the stuff in the "SERVICE DATA" section (in bold below)

CRUSE - 20 HR
Save date,2005/12/8
Comment
Engine No.,1400lF-516539
Boat Type,RIBCRAFT
Description,
Engine information
Power,140PS
ECM ID.33920-92J40
Spec.,---
Engine Type,4 stroke,2045cc

SERVICE DATA
Item,Data,Unit
ENGINE SPEED, 719,rpm
IGNITION TIMING,BTDC 8,°
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE, 260,mmHg
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE,34.6,kPa
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE,10.23,inHg
BAROMETRIC PRESSURE, 768,mmHg
BAROMETRIC PRESSURE,102.4,kPa
BAROMETRIC PRESSURE,30.27,inHg
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE, 60,°C
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE, 139,°F
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE, 12,°C
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE, 54,°F
BATTERY VOLTAGE,14.72,V
FUEL INJ. PULSE WIDTH, 3720, nano s
INJECTED FUEL AMOUNT, 12,mcc
FUEL PUMP DUTY,55.2,%
IAC VALVE DUTY,31.3,%
N0. OF MAP SENSOR FAILURE, 0, titles
N0. OF CKP SENSOR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF IAC VALVE FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF CMP SENSOR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF CTP SWITCH FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF CYL. TEMP. SNSR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF IAT SENSOR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF EX. TEMP. SNSR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF FUEL INJECTOR FAILURE, 0,times
N0. OF OVER-REVOLUTION, 0,times
N0. OF LOW BATTERY VOLTAGE, 2,times
N0. OF LOW OIL PRESSURE, 0,times
N0. OF OVERHEAT(GRADIENT), 0,times
N0. OF OVERHEAT(TEMP.), 0,times

caution system name (1),low battery,
ENGINE SPEED (1), 0,rpm
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (1), 753,mmHg
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (1),100.4,kPa
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (1),29.68,inHg
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (1), 19,°C
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (1), 66,°F
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (1), 20,°C
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (1), 68,°F
ex-mani TEMPERATURE (1), 19,°C
ex-mani TEMPERATURE (1), 67,°F
FAILURE TIME (1), 0,h
ELAPSE OF TIME (1), 0,min

caution system name (2),low battery,
ENGINE SPEED (2), 0,rpm
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (2) 750,mmHg
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (2) 99.9,kPa
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (2) 29.53,-inHg
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (2), 18, C
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (2), 65, F
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (2), 19,'C
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (2), 66,°F
EX-MANI TEMPERATURE (2), 19,°C
EX-MANI TEMPERATURE (2), 66,°F
FAILURE TIME (2), 0,h
ELAPSE OF TIME (2), 0,min

CAUTION SYSTEM NAME (3),No Data,
ENGINE SPEED (3), 0,rpm
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (3) 0,mmHg
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (3) 0.0,kPa
MANIFOLD ABSOLUTE PRESSURE (3) 0.00,-inHg
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (3), -50, C
CYLINDER TEMPERATURE (3), -58, F
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (3), -50,°C
INTAKE AIR TEMPERATURE (3), -58,°F
EX-MANI TEMPERATURE (3), -50,°C
EX-MANI TEMPERATURE (3), -58,°F
FAILURE TIME (3), 0,h
elapse OF time (3), 0,rmn

TOTAL OPERATION TIME (HRS.), 23,h
TOTAL OPERATION TIME (MIN.), 50,min
0-1000 rpm, 564,mm
1000-2000 RPM 248 min
2000-3000 RPM 188 min
3000-4000 RPM 248 min
4000-5000 RPM 140 min
5000-6000 RPM 38 min
ABOVE 6000 RPM, 4,min
ELAPSE TIME FROM REMINDER CANCEL, 0,h
NO. OF OIL CHANGE REMINDER, 1,times
COMPENSATION FACTOR (ZONE 1),1.000,
COMPENSATION FACTOR (ZONE 2),1.000,
COMPENSATION FACTOR (ZONE 3),1.000,
TIME OF LAST 02 FEEDBACK, 0,h
EMERGENCY STOP SWITCH,OFF,
CTP SWITCH,ON,
NEUTRAL SWITCH,ON,

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by hard1

USA Cheaper? Are you kidding me? Only by about 1/2. That's about 80 Sovs here.

We ARE the most ripped off and overtaxed nation on the planet. Weep for us...

Not quite, I think Holland give us a good run for our money in the taxed to "F" dept.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Kernow

Yea but be fair............

they had to move 500 bales just to see it

Maybe I need to check the small print for the £100 "Cow Shit" surcharge.

[Mollers]

Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon

thats because they know how well off you are!!

You're joking! These guys are in Rock which is across the water from Padstein. Rock is known locally as "Kensington on Sea" When I roll into Rock in my truck with my arse hanging out of my jeans they think that the new age travellers are coming and call the Police!!