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27 June 2007, 23:53
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Kildonan, Arran
Boat name: Cowal (& Bennan)
Make: Quinquari Humber/RC
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF150/DF175x2
MMSI: 235036953
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Suzuki Stainless Props...
...availability thereof.
Does anyone know of any problems with these, or are they being fabbed on Jupiter?
I have my reasons for asking, which I won't go into right now; suffice it to say I've been waiting for one since March, and I'm starting to get a little peeved
I would have thought that with the price premium involved a little urgency would have been put into the equation; especially since the ing thing's been paid for.
Perhaps I should ask for the beer vouchers back...
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28 June 2007, 00:18
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Oakley
Boat name: Zerstörer
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: Suzuki DF 140
MMSI: 235050131
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Don't know of any problem but would like one for my Suzi just for the bling factor.
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28 June 2007, 03:09
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
Make: BLANK
Length: 8m +
Engine: Suzuki DT225
Join Date: Mar 2004
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I don't know what the fourstroke props are like but the Suzuki 2 stroke props are crap - overpriced and badly finished and get rust spots all over them in days!!!
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28 June 2007, 09:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: Reading, Hants
Boat name: Juicy
Make: Sealine F43
Length: 10m +
Engine: 2 x 370hp
MMSI: TBC
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Originally Posted by codprawn
I don't know what the fourstroke props are like but the Suzuki 2 stroke props are crap - overpriced and badly finished and get rust spots all over them in days!!!
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plink plink fizzzz......isnt that how the old suzuks are referred to?
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28 June 2007, 13:02
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: swansea
Boat name: Too Blue
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Length: 8m +
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Originally Posted by Hugh Jardon
plink plink fizzzz......isnt that how the old suzuks are referred to?
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No the engine is fine - it's just the props - I have a 4 blade Titan and it's much better than the genuine Suzuki props I bought in all respects.
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28 June 2007, 14:10
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I just bought a new 14.75X23 SS prop to replace the original 15X21 (on DF150) Suzuki SS one in an attempt to get the max revs in the correct place. I was told that Solas make the SS props for Suzuki, so that's what I bought..
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30 June 2007, 00:04
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Kildonan, Arran
Boat name: Cowal (& Bennan)
Make: Quinquari Humber/RC
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF150/DF175x2
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Hmmm.
Time for a new strategy, methinks.
Thanks guys...
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30 June 2007, 09:31
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDB
I just bought a new 14.75X23 SS prop to replace the original 15X21 (on DF150) Suzuki SS one in an attempt to get the max revs in the correct place. I was told that Solas make the SS props for Suzuki, so that's what I bought..
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How did it perform? the prop i've got is 3 blader 25" which seems fine at top speed but gives me the impression that it is slipping on pick up from standstill (also DF150).
I'm now thinking about trying a 4 blader, was your supplier any good (knowledgable)......
Anyway good you've solved your problem.
Iain.
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30 June 2007, 09:37
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
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Originally Posted by The Grocer
...availability thereof.
Does anyone know of any problems with these, or are they being fabbed on Jupiter?
I have my reasons for asking, which I won't go into right now; suffice it to say I've been waiting for one since March, and I'm starting to get a little peeved
I would have thought that with the price premium involved a little urgency would have been put into the equation; especially since the ing thing's been paid for.
Perhaps I should ask for the beer vouchers back...
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You been buying in bulk to get the vouchers again..
Incedently, the rib is now equipped with groovy new tough rope.
What happened to the RNLI trip ?
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30 June 2007, 17:34
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Member
Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Kildonan, Arran
Boat name: Cowal (& Bennan)
Make: Quinquari Humber/RC
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF150/DF175x2
MMSI: 235036953
Join Date: Jun 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IBWET
You been buying in bulk to get the vouchers again..
Incedently, the rib is now equipped with groovy new tough rope.
What happened to the RNLI trip ?
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Cheeky chappy - this is an 'igh cless hemporium, dontcha know?
64mm octoplait, I trust - doubled up for Lochranza
I thought Amber1 was going to contact the RNLI re: sponsorship (not sure which way round ). If he's reading perhaps he'll make contact. Then again perhaps he's blown a whole litre of fuel on a trip down to the Isle of Man...
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02 July 2007, 11:41
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Length: 5m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by IBWET
How did it perform? the prop i've got is 3 blader 25" which seems fine at top speed but gives me the impression that it is slipping on pick up from standstill (also DF150).
I'm now thinking about trying a 4 blader, was your supplier any good (knowledgable)......
Anyway good you've solved your problem.
Iain.
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I have not tried it out yet, will do so in a couple of weeks and report back. Supplier was Steel Developments...
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16 July 2007, 09:07
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Update:
Suzuki SS 15X21 on 6.5m Rib X: max revs ~6200rpm 48mph (gps)
Changes for Solas 14.75X23: max revs 5800rpm 50mph (gps) no noticable loss of acceleration, there does seem some slippage but not much different than before - I am taking "slippage" as the prop doing a car's version of wheelspin before it fully grips ?
Cruise at 32mph @ 4000rpm.
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17 July 2007, 08:01
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Glasgow
Boat name: stramash
Make: Tornado
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 90
Join Date: Feb 2006
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Quote:
Originally Posted by TNDB
Update:
Suzuki SS 15X21 on 6.5m Rib X: max revs ~6200rpm 48mph (gps)
Changes for Solas 14.75X23: max revs 5800rpm 50mph (gps) no noticable loss of acceleration, there does seem some slippage but not much different than before - I am taking "slippage" as the prop doing a car's version of wheelspin before it fully grips ?
Cruise at 32mph @ 4000rpm.
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Yea I get that quite a lot on my set up, mostly because the cav plate is 3-4 inches above the bottom of the hull, which is where it needs to be for my type of rig, otherwise I wont get the top end speed and revs, that the motor is capable of giving. I just feather the throttle for rapid get aways and live with it.
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17 July 2007, 10:20
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
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Originally Posted by Bigmuz7
Yea I get that quite a lot on my set up, mostly because the cav plate is 3-4 inches above the bottom of the hull, which is where it needs to be for my type of rig, otherwise I wont get the top end speed and revs, that the motor is capable of giving. I just feather the throttle for rapid get aways and live with it.
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With the length of that rib I would have thought a a huge fender strapped to the bow,would help you avoid hitting the cumbrae leaving the marina.
I have a new four blader coming so I'll see what difference it makes and let all know.
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17 July 2007, 23:56
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Kildonan, Arran
Boat name: Cowal (& Bennan)
Make: Quinquari Humber/RC
Length: 6m +
Engine: Suzuki DF150/DF175x2
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At last!
Got the new blingery today. ("Back order" from Suzuki spares depot. Fer cryin' out loud, Suzuki GB - whole species have evolved and become extinct in less time. )
Very shiny, so decided it needed a dunk in the oggin.
Whipped off old dinged alu, put on shiny new steel.
Why do the splines stick out so far now?
Prise final spacer off old prop, put back on drive shaft, torque down, put pin in; lift boat off sand, reverse out into Lamlash Bay.
Trundle through moorings - at 1000rpm we seem to be up from 3.5kts to 4kts. OK so far.
Outside moorings - 2000rpm, 3000rpm up we go; a lot smoother with the new prop. Keep on accelerating - now at 4500-4600rpm we're doing about 25kts almost fully trimmed out. This is better; before we'd be at ~5k. Looking good for the fuel bill.
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...the engine still tops out at an indicated 6200rpm (just over the normal range), and whereas on Sunday I managed 33kts solo with full tanks, tonight we got a heady 33.4kts. OK, Mrs. G. was gracing the Nav. seat, but she's not exactly what you might call hefty.
Perhaps I should've gone for a 22" pitch rather than a 20". Oh well, it'll have to wait for another day...
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18 July 2007, 00:28
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Country: UK - Scotland
Town: Ayrshire
Boat name: Raven
Make: Ribcraft
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 suzuki
MMSI: 235040525
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Quote:
Originally Posted by The Grocer
Got the new blingery today. ("Back order" from Suzuki spares depot. Fer cryin' out loud, Suzuki GB - whole species have evolved and become extinct in less time. )
Very shiny, so decided it needed a dunk in the oggin.
Whipped off old dinged alu, put on shiny new steel.
Why do the splines stick out so far now?
Prise final spacer off old prop, put back on drive shaft, torque down, put pin in; lift boat off sand, reverse out into Lamlash Bay.
Trundle through moorings - at 1000rpm we seem to be up from 3.5kts to 4kts. OK so far.
Outside moorings - 2000rpm, 3000rpm up we go; a lot smoother with the new prop. Keep on accelerating - now at 4500-4600rpm we're doing about 25kts almost fully trimmed out. This is better; before we'd be at ~5k. Looking good for the fuel bill.
However...
...the engine still tops out at an indicated 6200rpm (just over the normal range), and whereas on Sunday I managed 33kts solo with full tanks, tonight we got a heady 33.4kts. OK, Mrs. G. was gracing the Nav. seat, but she's not exactly what you might call hefty.
Perhaps I should've gone for a 22" pitch rather than a 20". Oh well, it'll have to wait for another day...
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Russell,
My sook's rev limiter is at that speed (6,200),it's not bouncing on the rev limiter is it? 500 rpm less at the mid range same top end? now this is a guess but could it be the slip thats your problem at higher RPM? going up in dia instead of pitch might be the answer.
Oops..shiny new prop for sale next to the corny's
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20 July 2007, 00:32
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Country: UK - Scotland
Make: Ribcraft 4.8
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Engine: Yamaha 60hp
Join Date: May 2007
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Sorry I've not been in touch about the trip. I did contact RNLI Scotland, and they failed to get back to me. I even Made up a sponsor sheet, but unfortunatley work commitments have overtaken...Still keen to do the trip, but it might have to wait a wee bit.
Cheers
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