Suzuki,Verado,ETEC,OPTI 150 HP

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by NautiAndNice

Can someone shut this tool up please?

Its ok, I will go quitely now. But before I go, I just wish to say your name sounds like a young ladies Nightie......
A tool is useful, it gets rid of undesirable nuts.
Oh and with regard to shutting this tool up, many have tried and all failed.

Get over it!

[Goose]

The best performer for my money is the Honda 150 4-stroke. It is economical, reliable and very quiet.

[offint]

Defiantly the Honda as the 'all rounder'

Just have a look at this.

http://www.yamaha-motor.at/products/...ws/article.jsp

[Biggles]

That article says nothing about Suzukis though. Shame really as its always nice to see comparisons on engines and boats that you actually can relate to.

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by offint

Defiantly the Honda as the 'all rounder'

Just have a look at this.

http://www.yamaha-motor.at/products/...ws/article.jsp

great article, gets us 1/5 there need more guys, we need revs versus consumption and speed.

Anyone can prove which is the best 150 hp machine (100, 200, and perhaps our version of 150 there after) let us have it,!!!!

[Bigmuz7]

Ive used each of these engines for 4 years one after the other, a Mariner 135 2 stroke, then Optimax 150, and now a Verado 275 in that order. Out of the 3, the Optimax, was the best all rounder, powerful, fuel efficient and cheap to run & reliable. I'm no merc dealer, but optimax was the dogs

[Biggles]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Ive used each of these engines for 4 years one after the other, a Mariner 135 2 stroke, then Optimax 150, and now a Verado 275 in that order. Out of the 3, the Optimax, was the best all rounder, powerful, fuel efficient and cheap to run & reliable. I'm no merc dealer, but optimax was the dogs

This is the sort of information that people want though. If the originator is serious he should contact you for more info etc.

[qcamel]

Originally Posted by Bigmuz7

Ive used each of these engines for 4 years one after the other, a Mariner 135 2 stroke, then Optimax 150, and now a Verado 275 in that order. Out of the 3, the Optimax, was the best all rounder, powerful, fuel efficient and cheap to run & reliable. I'm no merc dealer, but optimax was the dogs

Having also gone from the Suzi to a 225 Opti and then the Verado I would agree that the Opti performed best and was also the most economical, however I would say IMHO that the Verado gives me a greater sense of security. It feels heavier and better engineered. Long distance cruising always had my mind playing tricks with me with the noises coming from the Opti, dont get that niggle in my head from the Verado. I know that its more expensive to buy, run and maintain but to me its like an E Class Merc, not the most exciting, quickest or economical and will kill itself on resale but real quality and a feel good factor thats hard to describe without using it.

[Bigmuz7]

I know what your saying about the Verado quality, and the optimax noises, but to be truthful, I've had odd noises from all of them. True the optimax was the weirdest, it depended on revs/load etc, but it was a faultless performer, when considering it shared the same block as the 135 2 stroke which spluttered a lot, wouldnt start when hot sometimes and died when pulling skiers etc. The injection technology puts it up there with the best. I should say I've only had the Verado for 2 years, but straight away, having spent more to buy it, it showed just how good the opti was, as the verado didnt offer anything substantially better. Fly by wire on Verado is good though, but no safety detent in throttle/shift is bad. Instant power from Verado is good too but take it to the limit and watch that fuel guage fall. TBH, I was very close to a dual opti 150 installation, and it was the weight that put me off. Whilst I like the verado, I hoped the the latest 4 stroke technology would have been a leap forward again and it is, but not as big as the leap from 2 stroke to 2 stroke opti IMHO

[qcamel]

I hoped the the latest 4 stroke technology would have been a leap forward again and it is, but not as big as the leap from 2 stroke to 2 stroke opti IMHO [/QUOTE]


Agree 100%

[offint]

A bit more info

http://www.honda-marine.com/pdfs/BF135_advantage.pdf

[Aidan]

Thank you all for the info.
I wouldnt mind but I am between boats at the moment as in I sold my last and have not yet received my new one.
I am just sussing out what to expect from my new one.

That is some really interesting info on Honda versus rest and the Honda Vs Yam. To be honest, I think Honda are the best made Cars in the world.
Their diesel 2.2 now in CRV is second to none.
I have had a 1.5LSI Civic that had a small rattle that bugged the crap out of me and I could never find it. I eventually tracked it down to the radio release handle which was made by Pioneer. The only thing in the car not made by Honda rattled (A bit of Gum sorted that out).
It should be among the best of engines in the world.

We will need to piece together all this info when it falls silent.
What about the Suzi 150/140 and ETEC

[offint]

The E-TEC is a great engine but lots of supply problems recently due to the change over etc. I have had a Suzi in the past and was not impressed, (actually it was crap)

As we all know these days all the engines are much of a muchness and very similar in technology, it all points down to personal preference.

As one Yamaha dealer said to me one afternoon “When was the last time you saw a Honda at the side of the motorway”

“Not very often” I replied, So I went a bought a Honda!

Still don’t know why he said that!! Rather odd!

[floater]

Originally Posted by Aidan

That is some really interesting info on Honda versus rest and the Honda Vs Yam. To be honest, I think Honda are the best made Cars in the world.
Their diesel 2.2 now in CRV is second to none.

I have a CRV 2.2CDTI and it is crap, the most unreliable piece of motoring junk i have ever had the miss fortune to own !! i ve had mondeos more reliable

Just my opinion iam sure that there Vtec s are great as they do make the claim that they have made over 1 million and have not had a single engine failure (in cars that is)

Andy

[Hightower]

Originally Posted by offint

As one Yamaha dealer said to me one afternoon “When was the last time you saw a Honda at the side of the motorway”

“Not very often” I replied, So I went a bought a Honda!

Still don’t know why he said that!! Rather odd!

Guess he sold a lot of Yamahas then

[Aidan]

[QUOTE=offint;183803] The E-TEC is a great engine but lots of supply problems recently due to the change over etc. I have had a Suzi in the past and was not impressed, (actually it was crap)

Do please tell about suzuki, was it 2 stroke or four stroke. I thought the one I had (70 4 stroke) was very smooth and reliable frugal also, it just was not enough OOmph for the 5 mtr Marlin for me anyway
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[QUOTE=offint;183803] As one Yamaha dealer said to me one afternoon “When was the last time you saw a Honda at the side of the motorway”

Thats odd alright, what a gobshite!!

Would love to hear about the ETEC, chapter and verse.
If the Johnson 140 (Same as Suzuki DF140 in white, controls may differ) is not enough oomph to get the 40, I will be on to youz lads to see what is the best engine. I am thinking Verado 200, ETEC200, Suzi200 onto Ballistic 6.5mtr.
I am sure the 175 ETEC would scorch along and I have two up and coming Boyz who think I am their personal banker and "more speed Dad"
I aint movin over yet as I do not think they are capable of a 175-200 Hp floating liquidizer. I will not be skiing behind them....
Actually and in truth they will not be driving this without me on board and after doing their powerboat course....

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by floater

I have a CRV 2.2CDTI and it is crap, the most unreliable piece of motoring junk i have ever had the miss fortune to own !! i ve had mondeos more reliable

Just my opinion iam sure that there Vtec s are great as they do make the claim that they have made over 1 million and have not had a single engine failure (in cars that is)

Andy

I am surprised by that Floater and I am glad you told me. I was going to buy one. I had the first CRV (petrol) in galway, Thirsty as hell (I had to trade in the Honda Hatch 1.5 lsi MIG fighter for CRV as it could not take pram...)
Mind you, i loved the Honda CRV, it was the higher spec one with Auto and Air con. sold it and the prson who bought it drove it straight over a ditch. Thats the thing about 4x4, they actually keep on going ovr the ditch, not into it.

I have to tell you tho and I am sure we cannot talk about Cars (spit!) on this forum but what teh hell.
My favourite car was a Saab 9000 2 ltr non turbo, I loved that car and teh kids never got sick in it. You couldnt drive a Jppo saloon after, no pull.
Saab had max torque at possibly 1800 rpm what a car, love em to bits...

Back to boats now...
Mind you teh Hona 70 and 90 is the civic 1400 engine.Wicked smooth.
So is the 150, it is a very smooth running engine..

[offint]

E-TEC Forum

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...=45449&start=1

[Aidan]

Originally Posted by offint

E-TEC Forum

http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...=45449&start=1

Wow! thats some report. Not one with anything bad to say and in fact all good for ETEC.

It is interesting as to what will indeed be needed after 300 hours. Probably not a whole lot.
It looks like a clear winner. I do recall tho that RIB ints didnt like the controls, if we could get the drive by wire on it!!!! well perhaps it would be less reliable,

Deffo ETEC is in the short list....

[Downhilldai]

Thought you were getting a 140 Soozook???