Total Respray?

[9D280]

Think I may have found a suitable leg for my PT upgrade, the only small "problem" being it's off a Mariner.

So, It would be good to keep it "original" -has anyone tried overpainting topcoat & been successful?

I am thinking that if it's already painted gloss, I will probably need to get it down to the metal to allow primer to stick properly, and that;s going to be a LOT of work, so can anyone reccommend a top coat that will stick straight onto the old topcoat? (and yes, I know I'll need to sand it to give it a half decent surface to key to if such a paint exists)

Alternatively, I go find a suitable mariner coloured lid........ (which is probably easier!)

[Downhilldai]

I assume you want to paint Black over Mariner Silver?
If so, just degrease it thoroughly, flat it off with wet & dry and get the old black shiny stuff on there. Going back to the bare metal will cause you more problems, as you'll need to use an etching primer. The black should go straight onto the silver, if it's prepared well, but may need a few coats to give the right level of opacity.

[9D280]

DHD,

Cheers, that's confirmed what I thought. The fun bit will be the nooks & crannies round the clamps, but I'm sure some patience & time will solve that.

I suppose on the plus side, black over silver should hopefully need slightly less coats than the other way round!

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Downhilldai

I assume you want to paint Black over Mariner Silver?
If so, just degrease it thoroughly, flat it off with wet & dry and get the old black shiny stuff on there. Going back to the bare metal will cause you more problems, as you'll need to use an etching primer. The black should go straight onto the silver, if it's prepared well, but may need a few coats to give the right level of opacity.

Would agree with DD,but remember to prime any areas where you do break through the old finish.[Standard primer will do]You should be able to get any coluor you wish from your local AUTOMOTIVE PAINT supplier mixed as an aerosol,although you may need more than one to do a good job.
Just 'dust' on a couple of coats and build it up slowly! The better the prep,the warmer and more dust free the area the better,and when you order the paint get a '2pack' paint.[And wear a suitable mask!]Best of luck!

[Poly]

9d280 - just a thought - but would a "mix and match" engine be less appealing to thieves?

[chewy]

Originally Posted by Polwart

9d280 - just a thought - but would a "mix and match" engine be less appealing to thieves?

I was thinking the same but didn't know if it was just me?

[uncle al]

the black paint name is phantom black

[spartacus]

Originally Posted by chewy

I was thinking the same but didn't know if it was just me?

That would be like driving a car with the doors sourced from a scrapy. I take your point regards not making it 'too appealing', but surely a matched paintjob on an engine is the way to go. Even from a resale point of view.

[9D280]

Pol,

Yeah, that thought had crossed my mind! The other thought that crossed my mind is that as it's a clamshell, I might be easier looking for a Mariner coloured lid.... That would just leave the gearbox black, which will spend most of it's time either underwater or in a prop bag.

As for resale, the engine is now 22YO, and unlike whisky, the price dends to drop with age!

[spartacus]

Originally Posted by 9D280

Pol,

Yeah, that thought had crossed my mind! The other thought that crossed my mind is that as it's a clamshell, I might be easier looking for a Mariner coloured lid.... That would just leave the gearbox black, which will spend most of it's time either underwater or in a prop bag.

As for resale, the engine is now 22YO, and unlike whisky, the price dends to drop with age!

Like one of these? Seems a little too pricey though. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Marin...ssoriesQ5fGear

[blinddog]

Seems a lot of hassle and debate here,
If you want PM me your number if you are near Fife and I'll get it painted (with 2k) and baked at work for much cheapness.
Problem solved.

gaZ

[hadd]

Originally Posted by 9D280

Think I may have found a suitable leg for my PT upgrade, the only small "problem" being it's off a Mariner.

So, It would be good to keep it "original" -has anyone tried overpainting topcoat & been successful?

I am thinking that if it's already painted gloss, I will probably need to get it down to the metal to allow primer to stick properly, and that;s going to be a LOT of work, so can anyone reccommend a top coat that will stick straight onto the old topcoat? (and yes, I know I'll need to sand it to give it a half decent surface to key to if such a paint exists)

Alternatively, I go find a suitable mariner coloured lid........ (which is probably easier!)

I had an evinrude over painted for £150 by the dealer i use, and the paint came off in the water, so i took it back to him and it look like he,s done a proper job now ,but iv not had engine back in the water yet to see if it stays on

[spartacus]

Originally Posted by hadd

I had an evinrude over painted for £150 by the dealer i use, and the paint came off in the water, so i took it back to him and it look like he,s done a proper job now ,but iv not had engine back in the water yet to see if it stays on

Shocking... sure they've done this type of work before?

[9D280]

Originally Posted by blinddog

Seems a lot of hassle and debate here,

But that's standard Ribnet Protocol...... To fully comply someone will now need to ask why I'm bothering to rebuild such an old heap and why not go and buy a nice new Opti.......

Originally Posted by blinddog

If you want PM me your number if you are near Fife and I'll get it painted (with 2k) and baked at work for much cheapness.
Problem solved.

gaZ

Cheers for that.

I'm close enough! Probably won't get hold of it before the end of the month, and as it's coming off a scrap engine if it's got an intact hood at a half sensible price it might be easier to make it reappear as a Mariner (especially as my current hood is starting to show it's age....

I'll PM you once I get it.

[hadd]

Originally Posted by spartacus

Shocking... sure they've done this type of work before?

They said that they'ed done it before,i could of done a better job myself, the engine looks ok now. but its not been in water yet