Vector outboards

Scomich · 29 February 2020, 09:15

As per title,

Anyone any actual hands on experience with these outboards?

Only asking out of curiosity. I see all the posts mentioning Parsun/Hidea.

But these posts are mainly I wouldn't touch them , rather have second hand known brand in they're opinion. Not actual hands on experience, and I don't have any either, so in no way am I defending they're corner.

I've tried for the life of me to get an honest review on the Vector brand Google/Youtube, but again other than peoples opinion as in wouldn't touch them, I'm not reading anything particularly bad about them.

So my take on that is either the people that do own them have had no problems, which equates to good

or

No one has them.

I'm ready to be educated. Again no way am I backing they're corner, just curious.

nocando · 29 February 2020, 09:43

They are same as parsun, hidea etc.

Briefly considered it as just picked up an excel vanguard from HQ and they had vector range sitting there. Decided to play safe and got Suzuki 20 instead.

Scomich · 29 February 2020, 09:58

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Originally Posted by nocando

They are same as parsun, hidea etc.

Briefly considered it as just picked up an excel vanguard from HQ and they had vector range sitting there. Decided to play safe and got Suzuki 20 instead.

Yeah I have read they are sold at Excel, Found a few Youtube videos with them on a Sib, also been on the Vector website, Its not very forthcoming with info.

Think I read old Yamaha copy. Certainly looks the part, but that goes for nothing.

Would really like someone with hands on use to come along with an honest review, whether good or bad.

I'm reading plenty good stuff about Excel range of Sibs, So would Excel tarnish that reputation by promoting the Vector outboards?

Just a thought.

Highland Haggis · 29 February 2020, 11:01

Call Terry at excel boat's he will give u an honest review of the out board my understanding is that they are a copy of Yamaha outboard but you pay for what you get really

Scomich · 29 February 2020, 11:04

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Originally Posted by Highland Haggis

Call Terry at excel boat's he will give u an honest review of the out board my understanding is that they are a copy of Yamaha outboard but you pay for what you get really

Thanks Highland, I sort of thought about that, will he give an honest review? being that he sells them, I would think he'd have to tell me they are good. Again just my way of thinking maybe. As would he really say no they are crap. Lol

Fenlander · 29 February 2020, 12:08

>>>he will give u an honest review of the out board

Only if he says don't buy one ha ha.

Scomich · 29 February 2020, 12:22

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Originally Posted by Fenlander

>>>he will give u an honest review of the out board

Only if he says don't buy one ha ha.

Lol. Point taken, Id still like to hear from a hands on point of view though. curiosity has me wondering.

Just wondering , not buying. lol

Fenlander · 29 February 2020, 12:53

Slightly more seriously...

My opinion is that they are a cheap low numbers (in the UK) outboard more likely to be bought by a non-boating person who wants to get on the water at a budget price so those folks don't tend to be on the forums and don't tend to keep them for years/decades to know how they last long term.

Just as an example they sell a 15hp 2-stroke (to those that qualify) which is about £1400 and as far as I can see a copy of my 2003 Yamaha. I would far rather the 17yr old Yamaha than a new Vector.

One issue is parts... the official parts source is very limited and the usual dealer response is "oh you can just fit Yamaha parts"... why would you buy a cheap Chinese outboard then have to fit premium price Yamaha parts?

If you search Ebay for "Vector outboard" there is just one return and that's a Yamaha part which mentions suits Vector. If you search "Yamaha Outboard" you get 6000 returns from new outboards through to a split pin.

For me the Vector numbers are just too low to get involved.

nocando · 29 February 2020, 14:02

Terry also has Suzuki sitting there.

I did ask him about vector briefly and I guess they are aimed at a different market than the mainstream ones.

With that said, parsun you can self service and keep the warranty, I dont know about vector.

If you consider you are saving 800 ish up front over a Suzuki plus 5x years of labour on services (assume the part costs are awash) you have saved probably in the region of £1300-£1500?.

I did briefly consider a parsun for the above reason but went with the Suzuki as it is the lightest by about 4kg when you actually compare with the new merc and about 8kg lighter than the parsun.

jeffstevens763@g · 29 February 2020, 16:17

my two pence, i was considering a auxiliary engine on the new boat i wouldn't buy a cheap copy for my main engine but i have considered an Orca 2.5 at £399 for the auxiliary my reason is its purely for emergency and for that reason i consider it a keep me safe even if its a one off throw away item. they did a two stroke for £299 but not currently available

Scomich · 01 March 2020, 08:58

Ok, Ok i get the hint don't buy a Vector. Lol.

Fenlander as always your reasoning makes perfect sense. and i appreciate the input.

So I've found this, Lol.

I'm awaiting serial/model number off the plate for it so i can check year.

But anyone know by the pic and decals on it roughly what year it may be

Mariner 15hp 2 stroke, no fuel tank though, but for 695 pounds even if it requires full service is this a good deal? Been told I can also see it running.

Ferryman · 01 March 2020, 09:57

Totally my opinion but this engine hasn’t been looked after, flushed through etc. It’s too beaten up!

Scomich · 01 March 2020, 10:00

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Originally Posted by Ferryman

Totally my opinion but this engine hasn’t been looked after, flushed through etc. It’s too beaten up!

Really that looks in really good nic to me can you explain what looks beat up about it?

Just in case im missing something. Thanks

Fenlander · 01 March 2020, 10:19

I'm not sure what Ferryman is seeing and why he'd say not flushed through... unless he knows the actual engine/owner??

From the images it looks fine. I've had that exact model and it was a great engine.

£695... an utterly amazing price. If it starts from cold OK and runs nicely with no rattles it's the bargain of the year.

Ferryman · 01 March 2020, 10:25

I guess I'm just way too careful, every outboard I've ever owned has been flushed through after every use and normally polished.
This one has a couple of knocks on the prop as well.
I just had a quick look on google and you're right, it does look like a good price to me.

Scomich · 01 March 2020, 10:26

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Originally Posted by Fenlander

I'm not sure what Ferryman is seeing and why he'd say not flushed through... unless he knows the actual engine/owner??

From the images it looks fine. I've had that exact model and it was a great engine.

£695... an utterly amazing price. If it starts from cold OK and runs nicely with no rattles it's the bargain of the year.

Thanks Fenlander, I'm very far from being any expert or even close .But my thoughts were the same, Ie the flushed through part. And if that engine is beat up my little 6 Yamaha which is now faultless must be ready for outboard heaven. Yet its great.

The seller has said it can be ran, So i feel he is not hiding anything and even forwarded a pic of the few scratches it has on the cowling. I thought that the scratches on the cowling was actually a crack but maybe not Going by the second pic.

Fenlander · 01 March 2020, 10:55

If that Mariner was £1150 I'd be expecting better cosmetics... at £695 it's not an issue. I like a tidy cowling and would probably re-spray that one with new graphics.... but it's a personal thing. Under the hood the powerhead looks fine.

I think you need to buy that urgently before someone else finds out where it is!

Scomich · 01 March 2020, 10:58

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Originally Posted by Fenlander

If that Mariner was £1150 I'd be expecting better cosmetics... at £695 it's not an issue. I like a tidy cowling and would probably re-spray that one with new graphics.... but it's a personal thing. Under the hood the powerhead looks fine.

I think you need to buy that urgently before someone else finds out where it is!

I'm on it. lol. If only the guy would reply quicker.

beamishken · 01 March 2020, 15:42

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Originally Posted by Fenlander

I'm not sure what Ferryman is seeing and why he'd say not flushed through... unless he knows the actual engine/owner??

From the images it looks fine. I've had that exact model and it was a great engine.

£695... an utterly amazing price. If it starts from cold OK and runs nicely with no rattles it's the bargain of the year.

This was my thoughts too looks a total bargain to me & pretty clean

Scomich · 01 March 2020, 17:06

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Originally Posted by Scomich

I'm on it. lol. If only the guy would reply quicker.

Guys been in touch told him I'd buy if as advertised , now he tells me somebody coming Tuesday to have a look . Will let me know either way.

Might have told me that in first place . But what's meant to be will be.