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15 February 2008, 20:50
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Just noticed the weight has been revised to 300kg - not bad for it's power. A Suzuki 300 weighs 274kg.
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16 February 2008, 06:38
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"aarghh" and i had my mind set on the Verado 300 for the new boat..
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Hi Tony
another Scorpion or perhaps a change
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16 February 2008, 07:39
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Member
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Boat name: Monkey Nutz
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Hi Tony
another Scorpion or perhaps a change
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Hi Andre
I'm going for a change..(still a rib though)
Tony
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16 February 2008, 09:43
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Hi Andre
I'm going for a change..(still a rib though)
Tony
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Tony
What do you have in mind or is it still too soon to say
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16 February 2008, 10:14
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Member
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Boat name: Monkey Nutz
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Tony
What do you have in mind or is it still too soon to say
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Something a bit special.......................
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17 February 2008, 10:10
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Member
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Town: Salcombe, Devon, UK
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
Something a bit special.......................
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Can't be I haven't had an email from you!
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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17 February 2008, 14:13
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Member
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Boat name: Monkey Nutz
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LOL
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18 February 2008, 10:07
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Member
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What do you think the price difference will be between the 300 and the 350?
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18 February 2008, 10:56
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Town: Reykjavik
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Tony
What do you think the price difference will be between the 300 and the 350?
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Price tag in US on 350 to be USD 29.000
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18 February 2008, 11:13
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
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Quote:
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Price tag in US on 350 to be USD 29.000
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DO you know what he 300 price is?
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20 February 2008, 23:11
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RIBnet supporter
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Town: Reykjavik
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Make: Seaquel 600 XS
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20 February 2008, 23:20
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Member
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Town: swansea
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Make: BLANK
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yup it looks great.
I think the prize for the most stupid engine ever to be launched must be the Yamaha V8 - the 350hp is bad enough but they have now released the 300hp model - yes and engine that costs far more and weighs far more than ANY other 300hp - they are insane. They went the wrong way - if it had been a 400 or 450 the weight would have made a bit of sense!!!
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27 February 2008, 10:34
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Verado 350
I was in Miami and got to test the Verdao 350 on a Fountain CC (triple). Really great motors! You can hear the supercharger a bit more because of new air intakes, but they're silent and powerful! It has beefier supports as well as a Bravo 1 gearcase. I really liked it; it had a lot more power than the 300!
Several of the boatbuliders had one concern, however; This is a motor from Mercury Racing, and is not a part of the normal Verado line. There's a 2 year warranty instead of 5, and they mean that Mercury know there is a risk of breakdown.
Also; there was a rumour that Honda would launch a new bigger engine, but this new series is delayed.
Suzuki also launched a 250 SS (SuperSport), which is the 300 engine basically, but somewhat detuned (still over 250) and with a shorter leg.
Representatives from Merc also told me that Yamaha are disappointed when it comes to 350 V8 market response. The engine feels sluggish, and one guy told me that the engine only puts out 329hp on the propshaft. Tried this motor on an Intrepid (triples).
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28 February 2008, 02:24
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What does worry me about the Verado 350 is the amount of air it needs - they have fancy new air intakes and even a fan to blow air around under the cowling. That may be ok for most US boaters but what about us Ribbers who operate in rough conditions with loads of spray everywhere??? All that water could easily get into the engine!!!
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28 February 2008, 09:30
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All that water could easily get into the engine!!!
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I think you should write to Mercury and let them have your thoughts .............
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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28 February 2008, 10:18
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Originally Posted by codprawn
I would rather an ETEC V8 but it's taken them long enough to produce the 300!!!
I won't order one for this season - I don't like being a guinea pig - but it will make a great winter project. By then I should have our new shipping company up and running and save a fortune by importing one.
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perhaps a pair of them on the back would be better. I am sure you would get good economy so that would not be such an issue.
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28 February 2008, 17:34
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I think you should write to Mercury and let them have your thoughts .............
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So are ALL engines exactly the same in terms of water resistance???
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28 February 2008, 17:54
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So are ALL engines exactly the same in terms of water resistance???
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As I'm sure you are well aware I didn't say anything of the kind.
But if you know better than Mercury who am I to argue?
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Originally Posted by Zippy
When a boat looks that good who needs tubes!!!
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28 February 2008, 18:03
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Did I say I know better?
I said I was concerned and I am as I may well buy one of these engines. I remember reading on this site about the RIB that was swamped on the Goodwins because the engines(Evinrudes) had cut out. Maybe all engines would have cut out in those condtions but then again maybe not.
These new Verados are being aimed at high speed applications - at those speeds the water tends to be a lot calmer than typical rib conditions. With all the elctronics and the supercharger gulping vast amounts of air is it going to be as stuff proof as a Tohatsu carb engine???
All I wanted was a bit of constructive thought................
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28 February 2008, 20:47
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Member
Country: UK - Channel Islands
Town: Guernsey
Boat name: Monkey Nutz
Make: Cougar R8 Sport
Length: 8m +
Engine: 350Sci Verado
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Quote:
Originally Posted by codprawn
Did I say I know better?
I said I was concerned and I am as I may well buy one of these engines. I remember reading on this site about the RIB that was swamped on the Goodwins because the engines(Evinrudes) had cut out. Maybe all engines would have cut out in those condtions but then again maybe not.
These new Verados are being aimed at high speed applications - at those speeds the water tends to be a lot calmer than typical rib conditions. With all the elctronics and the supercharger gulping vast amounts of air is it going to be as stuff proof as a Tohatsu carb engine???
All I wanted was a bit of constructive thought................
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Hi Codders
you sound like an old fashioned type of chap to me. Maybe these high tech super fast, super quiet engines are not really for you. Perhaps sticking to a more simple motor is best for your needs.
As for me.........well give me the biggest fastest beggar out there.... and i promise not to stuff it!!!
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