Verrado versus E-tec - Page 2

RibRoy · 16 December 2004, 22:18

Very impressive figures, compared to the Verado !!!!!!

Cant wait to see the first test with identical boats and E-tec/Verado that can confirm this. Also be very interesting to see if E-tec is more economic through the hole rpm. range.

Must decide what to order ,250 E-tec or 275 Verado. Sort of obligated to go for Verado, but E-tec grows on me every day.

Seaharrier · 17 December 2004, 07:10

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Originally Posted by D/B

HO 225 engine has a smaller gearbox with a lower water pickup, the engine
can run higher up the transom.
The computer also the engine to produce more power.
will give you 4 to 5 mph on boats with fast hulls 60/65+.

I ran the 250etec on the ballastic 7.8mt in spain last month gps 61mph
18 usa galls wot taken of their fuel flow gauge 6 people + 250 lts fuel.

On the rib I ordered there will be a hydraulic motor lift. Shall I get better performance with a 225 HO than the 250 etec? I heard that a HO engine is good on light boats but mine will be 1400kg (3000 lbs). Should I try to swap engine and go for a 225 HO?

Brambles · 17 December 2004, 09:01

Here is a short clip of the 250 in action. This was before Ashleyd changed the prop, so you can hear it cavitate a bit. Sounds sweet I think.

http://www.neptune.com/users/manos/v...anos197003.wmv

Regards.

Ian.

PS thanks to Manos for hosting the clip on his site.

Cookee · 17 December 2004, 09:51

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Originally Posted by Seaharrier

On the rib I ordered there will be a hydraulic motor lift. Shall I get better performance with a 225 HO than the 250 etec? I heard that a HO engine is good on light boats but mine will be 1400kg (3000 lbs). Should I try to swap engine and go for a 225 HO?

I don't know anything more than what has been written on here about Etecs, but if you're getting a hydraulic lifter (which one?) I would definitely get the HO as you can run it higher with the lower water pick up.

The danger with lifters is lifting the engine too high and starving the engine of water pressure and blowing it up - you must be on the ball the whole time, and a big water pressure guage is a must!

Obviously there is going to be 25 HP less and I don't know if the 225 is a smaller block or not which might give lower torque figures as well ...........

Should give you enough to think about!

Seaharrier · 20 December 2004, 11:01

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Originally Posted by Cookee

I don't know anything more than what has been written on here about Etecs, but if you're getting a hydraulic lifter (which one?) I would definitely get the HO as you can run it higher with the lower water pick up.

The danger with lifters is lifting the engine too high and starving the engine of water pressure and blowing it up - you must be on the ball the whole time, and a big water pressure guage is a must!

Obviously there is going to be 25 HP less and I don't know if the 225 is a smaller block or not which might give lower torque figures as well ...........

Should give you enough to think about!

Thanks.

This weekend I contacted my local dealer and he told me that the HO will be available from April 2005. If the engine is available before he will swap my 250 etec for the 225 HO.

He also told me that the 225 HO has as much horsepower as the 250. On the 225 HO there is a 10% deviation. This means it has 245 HP.

Cookee · 20 December 2004, 11:11

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Originally Posted by Seaharrier

Thanks.

He also told me that the 225 HO has as much horsepower as the 250. On the 225 HO there is a 10% deviation. This means it has 245 HP.

I would be very interested to know why a manufacturer would mark down the power of an engine - sounds a bit dumb to me?

Actionboat.dk · 20 December 2004, 12:46

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Originally Posted by Cookee

I would be very interested to know why a manufacturer would mark down the power of an engine - sounds a bit dumb to me?

Nobudy says that it have to 225 hk it can have more. Yes the 225Etec HO have more power than 225hk It will come with a new gearbox aswell.
The 225 and 250 have the same blok

We will fitt 2 x 250Etec this weekend. I wil send you some data/pict. after Christmas.

Best regards Jan

Cookee · 20 December 2004, 12:53

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Originally Posted by Actionboat.dk

Nobudy says that it have to 225 hk it can have more. Yes the 225Etec HO have more power than 225hk It will come with a new gearbox aswell.
The 225 and 250 have the same blok

We will fitt 2 x 250Etec this weekend. I wil send you some data/pict. after Christmas.

Best regards Jan

Well in that case i think I need to object to a guy who is planning on racing a 200 HO next season in a 200hp class! - how much is that one going to be giving out and where can I get official confirmation of the data?

simmons0 · 20 December 2004, 13:10

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Originally Posted by Cookee

I would be very interested to know why a manufacturer would mark down the power of an engine - sounds a bit dumb to me?

Im sure i heard somewhere it all comes from American fishing contests, where there is a maximum HP, or HP per metre, and your engine has to be within 10% of the limit.

So they call it a 225, and in the contest it will be classed as a 225 but should give the maximum 10% more power that they can get away with.

Actionboat.dk · 20 December 2004, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Cookee

Well in that case i think I need to object to a guy who is planning on racing a 200 HO next season in a 200hp class! - how much is that one going to be giving out and where can I get official confirmation of the data?

Have you look at Evinrude homepage http://www.evinrude.com/en/E-Tec/2005/V6/200.H.O/

Best Jan

Seaharrier · 20 December 2004, 14:49

In some countries you pay taxes according to the number of HP. That could be a reason. Yamaha does the same with the VMax 250. It has 275 HP and not 250 as indicated on the engine.

Actionboat.dk · 26 December 2004, 19:42

Just fitted the 250 Etec on the boat. Same speed but more bottom power.

BR Jan

RibRoy · 27 December 2004, 10:38

Any figures on fuel consumption yet ?

Regards

Roy

Actionboat.dk · 27 December 2004, 13:06

[QUOTE=RibRoy] Any figures on fuel consumption yet ?

No Not jet. they still run the startup program where they give more oil. so we have been out running them for long terms jet..

BR Jan

gtflash · 12 February 2005, 15:00

im confused as to what you get with a verrado engine in terms of steering...?? if its got this unique power steering do they supply the bi that fits to the hub?? it says everthing for a turn key install in brochure!

i think seaharrier is right about ho engines having greater o/ps, 247 i think is the quoted 225 hp figure.

gingercoastie · 12 February 2005, 16:57

I belive that the power steering is electric rather than hydraulic, so there is no need for the bit behind the steering wheel.

Seaharrier · 14 February 2005, 08:33

i think seaharrier is right about ho engines having greater o/ps, 247 i think is the quoted 225 hp figure. [/QUOTE]

I talked with the Evinrude importer for Europe last weekend about the H.O. He confirmed it has the same amount of HP than the E-tec 250HP. Only difference is the gear case. The H.O. is specially designed for very light boats (the kind of boats they use in the US for Bass fishing on lakes). On a heavy rib (above 1000 kg) there is no difference in speed of acceleration between the 250HP and the 225HO. Especially not when navigating on the sea.

gtflash · 14 February 2005, 21:43

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Originally Posted by gingercoastie

I belive that the power steering is electric rather than hydraulic, so there is no need for the bit behind the steering wheel.

then surely it would just be a wheel bolted to some fibreglass?? how would you tell the boat which way to go, there must be a sender or somet

Brambles · 14 February 2005, 21:53

[/QUOTE] The H.O. is specially designed for very light boats (the kind of boats they use in the US for Bass fishing on lakes). [/QUOTE]

I didn't know a Bass was that quick.

Seaharrier · 14 February 2005, 21:55

[/QUOTE]
I didn't know a Bass was that quick. [/QUOTE]

Very fast fish. over 70 mph...