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22 March 2010, 15:30
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Originally Posted by Downhilldai
What colour?
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Matt black
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22 March 2010, 17:36
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#42
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Originally Posted by bedajim
Matt black
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Thought it would have either been black or orange.
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22 March 2010, 17:42
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: N Wales Chester
Boat name: Mr Smith
Make: Humber
Length: 6m +
Join Date: Feb 2009
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Originally Posted by Chris
Exactly the performace I get on my 6.5 with a 150.
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Sounds familiar. We get 50mph on a 6.3 ocean pro Humber with 175 opti, two up with 140l of fuel.
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23 March 2010, 00:43
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
Join Date: Mar 2006
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Originally Posted by Apherel
Would the 6.2 and DF150 be the better 4 stroke option?
On other things:
-get a through hull depth transducer fitted under the deck, or a well made so you can fit one later.
-make sure you get a stainless frame made for the windshield that you can hang onto as you move forward past the console
-have it delivered with a cover
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Bigger is not really an option, I'm already going to have to pare the spec back from what I would really like so adding more boat and then more trailer and a bigger engine to push it is all going the wrong way sadly!
Transducer/well is already on the list. Cover is not - it's too windy here and I think it will chafe the tubes but also it will be impossible to fit. May get a console cover to protect the electronics but long term I'd intend to build a shelter for it to keep it under cover anyway say some time in the next 5 years - got 3 acres of land to play with round the house so it should fit in
I think I will end up with a single dive console as experience with the Destroyer is that the further forwards you are, the drier you stay (in other words I get earache from the Mrs about getting wet!!). I think in our windy conditions, near a tube could be a wet place to sit ... also the indicative cost of a dual console plus four jockeys is another biggish step in the wrong direction pricewise so I'll probably end up with a single dive console plus a twin jockey behind that on the centreline, same as I have on the Humber at the moment.
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23 March 2010, 19:23
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
MMSI: 235076954
Join Date: Sep 2004
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Originally Posted by BogMonster
Any chance of a photo of these? Sounds like a good plan for restraining fuel cans...
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Sorry about the quality of the photography, I had to crawl under the cover to take it, bloody rain!
They are nothing special, simply a blind, threaded insert in the deck put in by Osprey, as is used for bolting down Jockeys etc. and then I have simply gunged down a large S/S washer on top and screwed down a counter sunk allen bolt to hold it in place. The idea is that when I want to use them I remove the allen bolt and screw in a tie down ring - I've yet to get these made just something else!!!!
Cheap and easy!
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23 March 2010, 20:11
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#46
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
Join Date: Sep 2005
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian M
I have simply gunged down a large S/S washer on top and screwed down a counter sunk allen bolt to hold it in place. The idea is that when I want to use them I remove the allen bolt and screw in a tie down ring !
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I use M8x20mm long A4 grub screws to plug off the 'big head' fixings in my deck when not in use - nice and neat.
316 grade 'lifting' eyebolts are good to use as tie-downs. Only a couple of quid each.
http://www.juststainless.co.uk/products/eyes.asp
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23 March 2010, 20:29
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#47
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
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Engine: 200 E-TEC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
I use M8x20mm long A4 grub screws to plug off the 'big head' fixings in my deck when not in use - nice and neat.
316 grade 'lifting' eyebolts are good to use as tie-downs. Only a couple of quid each.
http://www.juststainless.co.uk/products/eyes.asp
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Cheers Brad, they'll do the job perfectly, just what I was thinking of
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23 March 2010, 20:31
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Country: UK - England
Town: manchester
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Join Date: Feb 2010
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
What colour?
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Tony t on here i think black and they look good (domino)
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23 March 2010, 20:52
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#49
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BLACKSTORM
... black and they look good (domino)
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
Thought it would have either been black or orange.
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23 March 2010, 21:43
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hightower
I know of at least one other Vipermax that had a complete set of tubes replaced FOC because of a fault.
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Yes, and I am still not terribly impressed
Definately the weakest aspect of Ospreys. Having said that, my new tubes do hold pressure well.
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23 March 2010, 22:07
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
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Originally Posted by Ian M
Having said that, my new tubes do hold pressure well.
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The originals didn't?
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23 March 2010, 22:39
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#52
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Member
Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
Make: Osprey
Length: 6m +
Engine: 200 E-TEC
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Ah, sorry I didn't mean to give that impression. The old ones did hold air OK; I was just trying to put a positive in to balance the picture.
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23 March 2010, 23:30
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Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
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What was wrong with the originals?
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24 March 2010, 00:13
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
Boat name: Jianna
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Engine: 200 E-TEC
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The bow was mis-shapen and there were 'cosmetic' issues.
I am told that things changed when their QA was 're-organised'.
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24 March 2010, 00:18
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Shame that. I assume the replacement toobs are ok?
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24 March 2010, 14:17
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Country: UK - England
Town: New Milton
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Yes, some relatively minor cosmetic issues that I live with, my fault for specifying swanky toobs but they do appear sturdy and air tight.
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25 March 2010, 11:11
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Member
Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ian M
they do appear sturdy and air tight.
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That's the important bit for me
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25 March 2010, 11:18
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Country: Other
Town: Stanley, Falkland Is
Boat name: Seawolf
Make: Osprey Vipermax 5.8
Length: 5m +
Engine: Etec 150
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One question for Etec owners, particularly Vipermax ones, what sort of fuel economy (litres per nm) do you get at displacement speed, steady cruising (20-25kt) and fairly near flat out? Just so I know what I am looking at - running costs are an issue.
Thanks
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25 March 2010, 11:56
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Member
Country: UK - Wales
Town: West Wales
Make: Vipermax 5.8, SR4.7
Length: 5m +
Engine: 150 Opti, F50EFi
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BogMonster
what sort of fuel economy (litres per nm) do you get at displacement speed,....
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I reckon you'll struggle with this one.
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25 March 2010, 12:45
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#60
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Country: Ireland
Length: 4m +
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Downhilldai
I reckon you'll struggle with this one.
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Probably, but it is of interest to a surprising number of people - I've been asked a couple of times and I don't know the answer.
I'd have guessed that fuel consumption/Nm is very good in the lower part of displacement speeds 1000-1500rpm, worsening as planing speed is approached and improving again once on the plane?
My rib make about 2-3kts with the engines just in gear - it can't be burning much gas at those revs. I think
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